tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post116939054050503801..comments2020-04-11T03:30:02.282-05:00Comments on Advance Indianaâ„¢: Indy Chicken Tarred And FeatheredGary R. Welshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169696205677228062007-01-24T22:36:00.000-05:002007-01-24T22:36:00.000-05:00From the Chicken,One last comment on this thread. ...From the Chicken,<BR/><BR/>One last comment on this thread. The Indy Chicken isn't going away. Plans are being made and reinforcements have joined the cause. The Indy Chicken is just getting started. Everyone can say together, Thanks Jen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169644182130553152007-01-24T08:09:00.000-05:002007-01-24T08:09:00.000-05:00Yes, russ, that IS the issue. Bart and his band o...Yes, russ, that IS the issue. Bart and his band of boyz are using their position to threaten and intimidate and that is WRONG! <BR/><BR/>Is I have seen written other places, welcome to Communist Indianapolis, where free speech is not free and innocent until proven guilty does not apply.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169623359285440232007-01-24T02:22:00.000-05:002007-01-24T02:22:00.000-05:00Go to theindychicken.blogspot.com and vote...........Go to theindychicken.blogspot.com and vote.........Legacy Userhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01624388336192960176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169573014734382852007-01-23T12:23:00.000-05:002007-01-23T12:23:00.000-05:00Lost in the shuffle of all this (well, besides AI ...Lost in the shuffle of all this (well, besides AI briefly touching on this) is the fact that police resources were used to follow the guy to his house and find out who he was. If he does this to a guy in a chicken suit, then what is he doing or has done to his political opponents? This is a terrible abuse of power and privacy rights. Who does he think he is, Richard Daley?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169508457396935672007-01-22T18:27:00.000-05:002007-01-22T18:27:00.000-05:00Anon 11:45 AMIt takes guts to be a candidate for p...Anon 11:45 AM<BR/><BR/>It takes guts to be a candidate for public office these days. Only gutless people like you and Wilson sit on the sidelines and criticize the citizens who dare to seek a public office. You are the cowards. Why don't you run for an office? If you have a problem with my candidacy, vote for my opponent.<BR/><BR/>Computerized voting machines and voter ID will help to eliminate some of the other tactics used on election day against candidates you don't support.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169494704398356222007-01-22T14:38:00.000-05:002007-01-22T14:38:00.000-05:00Jocelyn, you've already run for (and lost) about e...Jocelyn, you've already run for (and lost) about every office in Marion County except for Dogcatcher - and they ruled you off the ballot for that as a conflict-of-interest! LOLWilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/06987859307032067229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169484358300511652007-01-22T11:45:00.000-05:002007-01-22T11:45:00.000-05:00Good Lord, Jocelyn, I never thought I'd take up Wi...Good Lord, Jocelyn, I never thought I'd take up Wilson's point, but...<BR/><BR/>For the record, I was the earlier anonymous post who regretted seeing your obvious writing style on this blog again. It's stilted and hard to read. That's the reason I was regretful, not because of your opinions. <BR/><BR/>You're entitled to your opinions. Wouldn't attempt to dissuade you from them.<BR/><BR/>Just wish I could understand about 3/4 of them. Try an English class. Shorter sentences, stick to the point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169478744523463862007-01-22T10:12:00.000-05:002007-01-22T10:12:00.000-05:00Response to Anon 6:32 and Insecure Wilson AllenYes...Response to Anon 6:32 and Insecure Wilson Allen<BR/><BR/>Yes, I am still involved and very active. <BR/><BR/>For 2 people who profess constitutional rights, you Democrats seem to discourage individual opinions different from your own. The big lie. You attempt to instill fear in weak-minded individuals and smear the strong ones. Ignorance prevails with you people until you are exposed. Fate has a way of exposing the true liars. As for you Wilson, your opinions have no bearing on factual events. You have not been privy to everything in this city. If you are, then you have been an active participant in thc crimes. You are out of touch with reality and present yourself to be less informed than most human beings on these blogs. Your comments never, never contribute anything worthwhile to the conversations. The mudslinger you have become is merely for you to have a presence on the political scene. The only people who can appreciate your participation at all, need a fall guy when the time comes, you have obviouly volunteered for the job. There is nothing you can do to keep me from being politically active, so give it up.<BR/>If and when I decide to seek a public office, I will confront you and any other flunky for the Democrat Party head on. Truth, a double-edged sword cuts two ways.<BR/><BR/>People feed pigeons...they shoot at Eagles!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169469630470586002007-01-22T07:40:00.000-05:002007-01-22T07:40:00.000-05:00Deadbeat Jocelyn is always making outrageous accus...Deadbeat Jocelyn is always making outrageous accusations but can never produce proof because she just makes stuff up and promises to deliver documentation in the future (which never arrives for her). She posts prolifically under fake names because she is so discredited herself. She is a hateful homophobe of the worst sort. She is an opportunistic loser through and through - a shriveled soul consumed by hate. A mendacious mess...Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/06987859307032067229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169465577459142422007-01-22T06:32:00.000-05:002007-01-22T06:32:00.000-05:00(sigh) evidently Jocelyn is still around, based ...(sigh) evidently Jocelyn is still around, based on the above post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169445730120566502007-01-22T01:02:00.000-05:002007-01-22T01:02:00.000-05:00To exploit certain situations of any individual is...To exploit certain situations of any individual is one of the tactics used in the pollitical arena, harassment and intimidation. Numerous individuals have been setup or tainted by members of the Ghetto Mafian who oppose them and Wilson seems to support all of it without disclosing the perpetrators in his Party. Most were gangsters before getting elected to public office. They continued all of their bad habits in office. Sooner or later they will be exposed and when they are, don't be surprised. "What is good for the goose is good for the gander." Turnabout is fair play." Stay tune!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169443044129033922007-01-22T00:17:00.000-05:002007-01-22T00:17:00.000-05:00"To Indyernie- I would like to apologize to you fo..."To Indyernie- I would like to apologize to you for the unfair intimidation you have been subjected to. As a democrat, I am very saddened to see my party resort to this type of behavior."<BR/><BR/>Erin no apology necessary. I apologize to you for the insults I've issued regarding Democrats in general. Evidently some are exceptional. Thank you.Legacy Userhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01624388336192960176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169442570162829372007-01-22T00:09:00.000-05:002007-01-22T00:09:00.000-05:00"I found out because Shearer admitted to more than..."I found out because Shearer admitted to more than few folks that he was the chicken."<BR/><BR/>Jen that's BS and you know it. <BR/><BR/>You gave your the info to the Star after leadership at the Democrat party got involved. <BR/><BR/>Wilson is a snake who sticks his nose in other peoples business, but he is a lightweight compared to you.<BR/><BR/>You make a snake look 6 ft tall.<BR/><BR/>And nothing printed here or anywhere else proves anything.Legacy Userhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01624388336192960176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169441648171570232007-01-21T23:54:00.000-05:002007-01-21T23:54:00.000-05:00"IndyErnie threatened to assault me and my camera ..."IndyErnie threatened to assault me and my camera this summer"<BR/><BR/>Wilson that's a bold face lie. I'm sure the statue of limitation hasn't expired. I will be glad to defend myself against any charge that you can bring against me. <BR/>I insist that you contact the Marion County Prosecutor tomorrow and file the charges. Otherwise keep your lying mouth shut. Nothing would please me more than suing your dumb ass after I'm acquitted.Legacy Userhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01624388336192960176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169438742349055782007-01-21T23:05:00.000-05:002007-01-21T23:05:00.000-05:00While numerous Ds may not appreciate this- I am no...While numerous Ds may not appreciate this- I am not going to agree on this issue. Indyernie's tax records are NOT relevant to his problems with the Mayor. He is a citizen period and should be able to protest in a chicken suit or however he wants without having his personal records all over the place. I have been appalled by the use of these types of tactics by Karl Rove and co. (O'Neill, Wilson, Clark ) and, you know what, if I objected then, I'm going to object now. <BR/><BR/>Simply naming Shearer is one thing, but, the posting and distribution of his tax history is quite another. This type of behavior does have a very chilling effect on peoples ability to protest. I have yet to hear anyone actually offer an explanation as to how this information is relevant to Mr. Shearer's protest of the level of violent crime in Indianapolis as a citizen of Indianapolis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169436900923536202007-01-21T22:35:00.000-05:002007-01-21T22:35:00.000-05:00COLTS & BART WINS>>>>F8888 the chicken.COLTS & BART WINS>>>>F8888 the chicken.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169432271512855862007-01-21T21:17:00.000-05:002007-01-21T21:17:00.000-05:00Dickerson was usually surrounded by non-cute anony...Dickerson was usually surrounded by non-cute anonymous white men who were non-memorable. I had more important things to do at campaign events than to chat up any of that <I>coterie</I> ... with my big camera and <I>interesting</I> hair, I do kinda stand out in a crowd...Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/06987859307032067229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169431369277350372007-01-21T21:02:00.000-05:002007-01-21T21:02:00.000-05:00Jen, I'm going by various comments over at IndyUnd...Jen, I'm going by various comments over at IndyUndercover as soon as the chicken started getting attention, indicating that he was being tailed and a license plate check was run. Wilson acts like it was a big secret that IndyErnie and Shearer were synonomous. I assumed they knew each other since they were always commenting about being at campaign events last year at the same time. I only know Shearer to converse with him on the blog as IndyErnie.Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169429848320163772007-01-21T20:37:00.000-05:002007-01-21T20:37:00.000-05:00I have no knowledge of license plates or owners th...I have no knowledge of license plates or owners thereof. Nobody fed me info. Somebody speculated online that The Chicken might be IndyErnie. That was an intriguing idea. The FEC listing was the key - I felt stupid for not thinking of it earlier...<BR/><BR/>Use WHOIS and you'll find who owns www.TheIndyChicken.com - revealing - verifiable! Chicken tracks everywhere...Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/06987859307032067229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169429655226494722007-01-21T20:34:00.000-05:002007-01-21T20:34:00.000-05:00"You and other Democratic operatives had no reason..."You and other Democratic operatives had no reason to believe Shearer was the man in the chicken suit."<BR/><BR/>I found out because Shearer admitted to more than few folks that he was the chicken. The story spread, and a couple people tipped me off, so I posted it.<BR/><BR/>There really isn't anything sordid about all this. The guy just couldn't keep his mouth shut.<BR/><BR/>I don't know anything about license plates or officers tailing him. None of that would have been necessary. He's not a very bright man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169427466107909752007-01-21T19:57:00.000-05:002007-01-21T19:57:00.000-05:00Okay, who ran the license plate check on the car a...Okay, who ran the license plate check on the car and gave the owner's name to you, Wilson? You and other Democratic operatives had no reason to believe Shearer was the man in the chicken suit. Having law enforcement officers follow a man in a chicken suit and run plate checks to learn his identity so dirt can be dug up on him is an abuse of power.Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169422880933849772007-01-21T18:41:00.000-05:002007-01-21T18:41:00.000-05:00IndyErnie was quite the Dickerson supporter - ther...IndyErnie was quite the Dickerson supporter - there's only one contributor listed named Ernie - he gave $100 at Darla's fundraiser for Eric on 9/7/06. <B>Ernie Shearer</B>. With Google and CivicNet, all spilled out rapidly. Hizzoner had nothing to do with it.Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/06987859307032067229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169421932356703252007-01-21T18:25:00.000-05:002007-01-21T18:25:00.000-05:00I believe Erin's First Amendment concern is that a...I believe Erin's First Amendment concern is that a current officeholder may be using public resources to target a private citizen. Complaints were made by several people that law enforcement was being used to tail the automobile in which the Indy Chicken was riding in an effort to learn his identity. Is it not fair to ask if this bit of information was dug up at the direction of our mayor or his staff?Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169421299233292192007-01-21T18:14:00.000-05:002007-01-21T18:14:00.000-05:00ERIN: The First Amendment applies solely to the go...ERIN: The First Amendment applies solely to the government not restricting the right of individuals to free speech. Individuals citizens also have the right of free speech to expose and legitimately discredit other citizens (subject to slander and libel laws). Therein ls the interplay of ideas and speech external to government. <BR/><BR/>IndyErnie threatened to assault me and my camera this summer - perhaps I should have reported the online speech incident for prosecution. At the time, Ernest Shearer was hiding behind a pseudonym. Now the mask is ripped away - Ernie Shearer wont be so intimidating and threatening to other citizens.<BR/><BR/>Hubert Humphrey put it well: We have the right of free speech but it does not compel anybody to take you seriously!Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/06987859307032067229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1169413737760288732007-01-21T16:08:00.000-05:002007-01-21T16:08:00.000-05:00A couple thoughts on this:1. This type of personal...A couple thoughts on this:<BR/><BR/>1. This type of personal attack is very damaging to the First Amendment. Indyernie (and the Chicken if they are different people) has the right to dissent with the Indianapolis/Marion County government in any legal manner that he chooses. There is only one requirement that he must meet to have the protections of our bill of Rights- being a citizen. There is no additional requirement of being a "good" citizen. If Indyernie had been convicted that would still not be relevant to his right to dissent. While I know some would argue that this is not a first amendment issue and that they are simply providing "context" to the Chicken's statements. I completely reject that argument. The motivation here is not to provide relevant context, but rather to intimidate him into not speaking and protesting. This type of behavior leads to a situation where the de jure first amendment rights cover all citizens, when the de facto right to expression is limited to those who are "perfect" (as far as character assassins can uncover). I completely disagree with Indyernie on pretty much everything, but I welcome his opinion as a fellow citizen. <BR/><BR/>2. To Indyernie- I would like to apologize to you for the unfair intimidation you have been subjected to. As a democrat, I am very saddened to see my party resort to this type of behavior.<BR/><BR/>3. I have read Jen's explanation of why she thinks this information is relevant and I don't agree. As I mentioned to you previously, AI, the Harshman post made me uneasy. There is a fine line between relevant/irrelevant. I think you came pretty close, but, even with my misgivings, I accept your explanation of why in that specific case Harshman's personal life was relevant. On the issue of Indyernie, I think it clearly crosses the line.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com