<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post113351025718954405..comments</id><updated>2020-04-11T03:30:02.282-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Advance Indiana™: Clark Lies And Lies And Lies</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/113351025718954405/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2005/12/clark-lies-and-lies-and-lies.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Gary R. Welsh</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>2</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-113379688095442457</id><published>2005-12-05T10:34:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-12-05T10:34:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;m a little confused. You claim Micah Clark is de...</title><content type='html'>I&#39;m a little confused. You claim Micah Clark is deceitful, and give as examples:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt; “[T]he Indianapolis City-County Council is re-considering raising homosexuality and cross-dressing to the status of skin color and religious identity for employment and housing purposes.”&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Well, that sounds pretty close to what the I understand the ordinance is going to do. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Next:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot; &quot;Hire that Transvestite&quot; is a transparent and bigoted attempt to play on people’s worst fears.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Well, if the transvestite is the best qualified. Then Yeah, those folks should hire him/her. That level of non-discrimination is my personal goal for our movement, and I hope the goal of many others. Micah Clark is not misrepresenting what we want.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;That Clark said &quot;all employers&quot; instead of &quot;all who employ six or more employees&quot;. That may be inappropriate, but not overwhemingly so.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Third:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You also quote Clark as saying:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;Clark tells councilors that the HRO will “pave the way for non-profit organizations as well, like churches, to submit to the same hiring rules”, and that “it will pave the way for legal acceptance of gay marriage.” &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Well, yes. It certainly is an important step towards acheiving those larger goals, which will- to a certain extent- be made easier.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Finally, reiterating the old &quot;special rights&quot; argument is a form of deceit. I agree.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But the way you make these arguments imply many of us are not about equal employment opprotunities for cross-dressers, or that we don&#39;t have hopes that one day even churches and non-profits will abandon discrimination based on gender non-conformity.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;People like Clark do deceive, but when you call someone out on deceit, you have to be squeaky clean honest yourself. In many ways Clark DOES accurately depict ours agenda and goals. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But we should be damn proud of that agenda.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/113351025718954405/comments/default/113379688095442457'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/113351025718954405/comments/default/113379688095442457'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2005/12/clark-lies-and-lies-and-lies.html?showComment=1133796840000#c113379688095442457' title=''/><author><name>Mike</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01669353896459722203</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2005/12/clark-lies-and-lies-and-lies.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-113351025718954405' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/113351025718954405' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1784822285"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="10:34 AM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-113363201602904109</id><published>2005-12-03T12:46:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2005-12-03T12:46:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Well said.</title><content type='html'>Well said.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/113351025718954405/comments/default/113363201602904109'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/113351025718954405/comments/default/113363201602904109'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2005/12/clark-lies-and-lies-and-lies.html?showComment=1133631960000#c113363201602904109' title=''/><author><name>Michael M.</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/02995539207350647463</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://home.earthlink.net/~mgmorey/michael.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2005/12/clark-lies-and-lies-and-lies.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-113351025718954405' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/113351025718954405' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-167742706"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="12:46 PM GMT-5"/></entry></feed>