tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post114047164673138882..comments2020-04-11T03:30:02.282-05:00Comments on Advance Indianaâ„¢: Bosma Apologizes To Jewish Relations Committee Over CommentsGary R. Welshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1140578294459079302006-02-21T22:18:00.000-05:002006-02-21T22:18:00.000-05:00On another note, Bosma has a challenger, Susan Ful...On another note, Bosma has a challenger, Susan Fuldauer. if you want to help, here is her information:<BR/><BR/>Committee to Elect Susan Fuldauer, 6284 Rucker Rd., Suite A, Indpls., IN 46220<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.votesusan.com" REL="nofollow">Vote Susan</A> should be up and running and have some additional methods for contribution working by next week.dhonighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06523751962764301520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1140578226112562902006-02-21T22:17:00.000-05:002006-02-21T22:17:00.000-05:00Honig here, and I'll defend myself. if you follow...Honig here, and I'll defend myself. if you follow the link to <A HREF="http://thedailypulse.blogspot.com/2006/02/jews-2-solution-updated-we-did-it.html" REL="nofollow">The Daily Pulse</A>, you'll see that the "2% Solution" language was a quote from the original letter from the Rabbi, not my spin on the situation. <BR/><BR/>As for anti-semitism, I responded on Abdul's site, and said there that the issue was minority protection, not anti-semitism. Also, if you go to my cartoon page, <A HREF="http://hypnocrites.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">Hypnocrites</A>, and look at the first 'toon, you'll get a pretty clear idea of my thoughts on the matter.dhonighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06523751962764301520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1140558081323433532006-02-21T16:41:00.000-05:002006-02-21T16:41:00.000-05:00Let's agree on one thing. Bosma made a mistake by ...Let's agree on one thing. Bosma made a mistake by making inappropriate comments to a minority group on a sensitive issue concerning religious freedom, and he admitted to that mistake as evidenced by his public apology. I never accused him of being anti-semitic, and Bosma did not indicate in his public apology that he thought he was being accused of being anti-semitic. He was accused of being insensitive to the rights of a minority religious group. His appetite for pursing anti-gay legislation is an entirely different matter. I fully admit to labeling him a bigot when it comes to gays. He is very proud of his support of legislation to make gays second class citizens. Religous minority groups are similarly offended by the manner in which he wears his Christian beliefs on his sleeves and forces them on other views. At a certain point, these two issues meet--since he bases his public actions on his personal religious beliefs- but it's not to say that he is anti-semitic.Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1140536138544761022006-02-21T10:35:00.000-05:002006-02-21T10:35:00.000-05:00"Considering that many of the most vocal opponents..."Considering that many of the most vocal opponents of HRO and similar anti-discrimination laws are in fact black, clearly not all blacks care about or can even acknowledge all kinds of bigotry."<BR/><BR/>Which is true; Blacks can be bigots too. But Blacks, considering that we're far more subjected to bigotry than everyone but Jews, we can comment on the matter with far more experience. <BR/><BR/>As for the anti-semitic comment? No one has said it explicitly, but it has been implied both Welsh in his earlier post, especially in arguing that "[Bosma] already demonstrated his legislative zeal in making sure that gays and lesbians are treated in this state as second class citizens. Now others are rightfully wondering if their rights are safe as well." Welsh also implied it in a later post when he noted another blog's comments on "Bosma's recent 2% solution comment." <BR/><BR/>Not to knock Gary, whose commentary I generally respect and often applaud, but if he wasn't accusing Bosma of anti-Semitism, then he should have spelled it out plainly and clearly. He didn't and thus, whether without any deliberation on his part or not, implied as such. Calling the comment "the 2 percent solution," in light of history (remember the Final Solution) and one is left with little choice but to think Bosma is being called a bigot. <BR/><BR/>The same can be said for Honig over at the Daily Pulse, who keeps calling the incident the 2-percent solution. Whether or not he's deliberately making such an implication, he is doing so, stallio, and thus shouldn't complain when others note it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1140535181769948142006-02-21T10:19:00.000-05:002006-02-21T10:19:00.000-05:00nice try rishawn, but no.first off, who said bosma...nice try rishawn, but no.<BR/><BR/>first off, who said bosma was anti-semitic? nobody did. that's a straw man argument. the real complaint is that bosma has no comprehension of equal protection under the constitution, and is endorsing christianity over minority religions.<BR/><BR/>and then there's this:<BR/><BR/><I>Given that as Blacks, we have a pretty good idea of what bigotry is and isn't...</I><BR/><BR/>sorry, but blacks (not even Blacks) are not the arbiters of discrimination. considering that many of the most vocal opponents of HRO and similar anti-discrimination laws are in fact black, clearly not all blacks care about or can even acknowledge all kinds of bigotry.stAllio!https://www.blogger.com/profile/00526303235883920702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1140532737977710882006-02-21T09:38:00.000-05:002006-02-21T09:38:00.000-05:00As a friend of Abdul, I have to disagree with what...As a friend of Abdul, I have to disagree with what you've said. Shabazz isn't trying to brush over the matter, but sincerely believes that what Bosma said wasn't particularly anti-Semitic. Given that as Blacks, we have a pretty good idea of what bigotry is and isn't, Shabazz's argument isn't "pathetic." You do have a right to your assessment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1140493610016252872006-02-20T22:46:00.000-05:002006-02-20T22:46:00.000-05:00Abdul is spinning for Bosma over at Indiana Barris...Abdul is spinning for Bosma over at Indiana Barrister--making it out that we've accused Bosma of being anti-Semitic, and that the group had always been hostile to Bosma. Pretty pathetic attempt at brushing over the stain.Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1140492312141943922006-02-20T22:25:00.000-05:002006-02-20T22:25:00.000-05:00It's not that he doesn't believe what he said or t...It's not that he doesn't believe what he said or that he regrets saying it, just that he is sorry if anyone is offended by it.Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16655747495179504729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1140475341742581452006-02-20T17:42:00.000-05:002006-02-20T17:42:00.000-05:00Given his pursuit of an anti-gay agenda during his...Given his pursuit of an anti-gay agenda during his tenure as Speaker, I think you and I already know the answer to that question anonymous.Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1140474748110542022006-02-20T17:32:00.000-05:002006-02-20T17:32:00.000-05:00any word about how Bosma feels about the 10% of Ho...any word about how Bosma feels about the 10% of Hoosiers that are fags or dykes? or don't they count either?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com