tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post114916218178585687..comments2020-04-11T03:30:02.282-05:00Gary R. Welshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1149336876765930972006-06-03T07:14:00.000-05:002006-06-03T07:14:00.000-05:00Gary's concluding point is right on the mark: After the City of Indianapolis pays for attorneys to defend the ordinance, and then pays ICLU's fees after the ordinance is overturned as unconstitutional, then rewrites the ordinance, etc., the taxpayers will have shelled out a quarter million dollars or more, just so prosecutor candidates can claim to be protecting our children by passing a toothless, illegal and redundant ordinance. In Marion County, I guess we do have publicly financed campaigns after all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1149296619460368292006-06-02T20:03:00.000-05:002006-06-02T20:03:00.000-05:00Gary, here's a vote for the ICLU position. I say this as the father of a teen-age daughter and God forbid that anything bad should come to her or any other person.<BR/><BR/>Ideally, the courts would find criminals to be guilty. Ideally, the courts would impose penalties as they see fit based on the facts. Sometimes, courts fail.<BR/><BR/>Life is full of risk, as we have learned this week with the tragedy of the Taylor University students and the seven Eastside family murders. Protecting all of us from the bad people is the job of law enforcement. Sometimes, law enforcement's net fails to trap the bad people.<BR/><BR/>Proposals like this matter amount to piling on -- and breaching the civil rights of people already judged to be criminals. The practical problems of this proposal have been clearly stated by Ken Falk and the ICLU.<BR/><BR/>Sad to say, in America the bad guys still have civil rights. Disagreeable as that is, it's the price we pay for freedom. Otherwise, the good guys would suffer the tyranical injustices for which the Revolution was fought. At some point, adults have to recognize that life is full of risks. We cannot be protected from all of them. We just have to accept them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1149277757950274242006-06-02T14:49:00.000-05:002006-06-02T14:49:00.000-05:00I dont think it's fair to say "gary is on the side of exploiters..." I think AI does good work. I do disagree though, with AI on this one, though... ICLU is just wrong here to worry about their "clients" needing to go to parks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1149177607296139852006-06-01T11:00:00.000-05:002006-06-01T11:00:00.000-05:00Just on the side of protecting an individual's constitutional rights anonymous. Sorry you don't believe in the Bill of Rights.Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1149168443176142902006-06-01T08:27:00.000-05:002006-06-01T08:27:00.000-05:00Gary Welsh - On the side of molestors, rapists and exploiters...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com