tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post115832504743191753..comments2020-04-11T03:30:02.282-05:00Gary R. Welshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1158454805558263462006-09-16T20:00:00.000-05:002006-09-16T20:00:00.000-05:00oh yeah, and again--thanks to AI, the other bloggers who brought this to the attention of many of us, to Clark Kahlo for remonstrating against it in the first place, and to Will Higgins at The Star, whose first article preceded the blogs by a day or so. It was brief, and failed to ask any tough questions, but it was there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1158454672411855582006-09-16T19:57:00.000-05:002006-09-16T19:57:00.000-05:00might want to look into the market value of the lease, too...i'm betting it was severely under market, in terms or money...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1158454610161868962006-09-16T19:56:00.000-05:002006-09-16T19:56:00.000-05:00Thank you, RiShawn.<BR/><BR/>How's this, for starters:<BR/><BR/>(All alleged, you understand)<BR/><BR/>1. Trustee using township-owned property to store personal vehicles<BR/>2. Trustee directing township's legal counsel to prepare a zoning case for private entity.<BR/>3. Failure to properly submit the premises for open bids (while perhaps not illegal, aren't there some statutes which deal with disposal/lease of publicly-owned assets?)<BR/><BR/>I belive there is a blank on the zoning application, which asks if the tenants have a lease. If this form was completed by the trustee, and he lied about it, there's another one to look into.<BR/><BR/>Brizzi may have huge cajonnes, but I doubt he has the balls to tackle Ice Miller, the trustee's counsel.<BR/><BR/>This is the firm, you'll recall, that advised the CIty of Lawrence to proceed with their ridiculously one-sided sale of the water utilitly to a just-formed entity with $200 in the bank. And, when quizzed about it, they denied they were representing the City. Only providing "Scrivener's Notes." Lawyers among us, take note. Ice Miller completed that heavy-lifting move in full view of an appeals court, and didn't bat an eye.<BR/><BR/>That's the kind of people you're dealing with here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1158441009563130542006-09-16T16:10:00.000-05:002006-09-16T16:10:00.000-05:00Abdul and I have noted on our respective sites that the Marion County Prosecutor is now looking at whether charges can be brought into this matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1158357078538864232006-09-15T16:51:00.000-05:002006-09-15T16:51:00.000-05:00There's a link to Ruth's blog on this site.Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1158356471492245312006-09-15T16:41:00.000-05:002006-09-15T16:41:00.000-05:00Yes, Ruth, more of us would like to read your blog. How do we find it?<BR/><BR/>And, about the old time Star and its investigative work, we don't need the yellow journalism of the Cady era again. His Pulitzer with Anderson was well-deserved, but once it went to his head, and after he got back from Arizona where he worked on the Don Boles case, he went down hill.<BR/><BR/>We don't need that kind of stuff anymore. I hope we've moved beyond it. In fact, much of the unsubstantiated fodder being published on blogs these days reminds me of that era.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1158354841139887472006-09-15T16:14:00.000-05:002006-09-15T16:14:00.000-05:00Ruth, thanks for sharing. Harris' historical perspective is quite informative. I'm having trouble posting comment over at your site right now. Did you change something?Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1158346234691608752006-09-15T13:50:00.000-05:002006-09-15T13:50:00.000-05:00Well, Queen...if Linda is the candidate...and if she is credible, honest, upright, etc.--find her some money.<BR/><BR/>Because there is a slight chance lightning could strike here.<BR/><BR/>Like crapolla--the more you stir this, the more it stinks. And one name continually stays in the mix--Carl Drummer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1158342230731651122006-09-15T12:43:00.000-05:002006-09-15T12:43:00.000-05:00Linda Ivey is the African American Republican candidate for Center Township Trustee.Queen916https://www.blogger.com/profile/16645350502782946096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1158338273392266302006-09-15T11:37:00.000-05:002006-09-15T11:37:00.000-05:00I wonder how much of this outrage is because -- as some of my readers and others have said -- we expected better of the Democrats? People are disappointed in the Peterson administration for standing silent as the rules are broken and ignored. They are disappointed that he won't stand up to the Carson machine.<BR/> Still, maybe this is how business is done in Indy. Read what veteran reporter Art Harris has to say on my blog today -- Art covered the liquor board back in the days when the Star actually had a reporter on that beat regularly. Boy is that long gone.<BR/> Some of this mess, I still say, is due to media asleep at the switch. Art talks about some of the investigative reporting done on similar deals by the R's when he was in the newsroom.<BR/> Lots of heads to roll over this one, guys. But I am not so sure it is a case of four legs good, two legs bad. As Art says, at least we know who the investors are in this (crooked) deal...the R's used to hide the names of their big players.<BR/> Not that being a bad actor in the past excuses the present, but as I say, maybe this is not that unusual....historically speaking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1158337998388231292006-09-15T11:33:00.000-05:002006-09-15T11:33:00.000-05:00A lawyer who won't tell you who his client is, but he's representing "them" at the meeting?<BR/><BR/>AI, isn't that a breech of legal ethics? If not, it should be.<BR/><BR/>Any landlord, public or private, who allows workmen into a building to begin exensive remodeling work, must have a signed lease. And a promise from the G.C. to deliver lien-free work. And a certificate of existence from the SOS bearing a current date, which indicates the Gen. Contractor entity is properly incorporated.<BR/><BR/>And--most importantly--general liability insurance, naming the landlord as an adiditonal insured party. Mr. Drummer, in case you haven't noticed, and God Knows our current Dept. of Labor isn't investigating much, but workers get hurt on construction sites. One mis-shot nail gun, an eye injured, and Center Township residents are possibly liable for huge medical bills. There's a reason permits and insurance are supposed to be in place properly. It's not s stretch to think someone would get hurt on a half million dollar project.<BR/><BR/>I don't now who the Republican candidate for trustee is. But if I were a Republican, and I had $30-50K to throw around, I'd dump it into three direct-mail pieces the last ten days of the campaign, and highlight these lapses in judgment by Mr. Drummer. It's a wayyyyyy long shot, but it might work.<BR/><BR/><BR/>If a landlord's representative had allowed this to happen in most private sector companies, (s)he would be fired. On the spot.<BR/><BR/>Don't let up, AI. The Star has probably done all the heavy lifting on this proejct they're going to do. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Call your council members! Demand that the city's DMD stand for something, lest they fall for anything!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1158333176468927802006-09-15T10:12:00.000-05:002006-09-15T10:12:00.000-05:00Yes I know who he is, are these two men related?<BR/><BR/>Tim Oaks represented the investors last night at the neighborhood association meeting. He would not confirm for us who was paying the legal fees for this project,and the liquor license application has a different attorney.Queen916https://www.blogger.com/profile/16645350502782946096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1158332032876974092006-09-15T09:53:00.000-05:002006-09-15T09:53:00.000-05:00Oaks is attorney for Center Township Trustee Carl Drummer in the rezoning/variance petition.Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1158327615351044482006-09-15T08:40:00.000-05:002006-09-15T08:40:00.000-05:00Is Atty. Tim Oaks of the Ice Miller Law firm representing the investors related to Al Oaks one of the investors in this deal?Queen916https://www.blogger.com/profile/16645350502782946096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1158326407336898362006-09-15T08:20:00.000-05:002006-09-15T08:20:00.000-05:00Paging Carl Brizzi, paging Carl Brizzi slam dunk case for you on line 1.Sir Hailstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16301073859882785758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1158325927574267492006-09-15T08:12:00.000-05:002006-09-15T08:12:00.000-05:00This whole mess should go to a grand jury for review.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com