tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post116346758796065727..comments2020-04-11T03:30:02.282-05:00Gary R. Welshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1163562071124332722006-11-14T22:41:00.000-05:002006-11-14T22:41:00.000-05:00Relax Wilson.<BR/><BR/>No one appointed you personal guardian and protector of All Things Black.<BR/><BR/>When the Concerned Clergy, et al, weigh in, and announce that they're offended, then it might mean something. The earlier post was not meant to be racially offensive, I'm sure, except to your hypersensitive ears.<BR/><BR/>One more post from you, pretending to know what's best for Black Indianapolis, is one post too many.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1163554317315226242006-11-14T20:31:00.000-05:002006-11-14T20:31:00.000-05:00IndyErnie, it is still inappropriate to call a 68yo Black man "Frankie <B>boy</B>" but I will be censored for decrying racism as well as homophobia being posted openly here ...Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/06987859307032067229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1163545597745492962006-11-14T18:06:00.000-05:002006-11-14T18:06:00.000-05:00New word coming out of the CCC is Frankie boy is getting a pay raise. <BR/>Gary how about it any word to you?Legacy Userhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01624388336192960176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1163545113226168822006-11-14T17:58:00.000-05:002006-11-14T17:58:00.000-05:00I just started following local politics when the new city-county council was elected and the democrats gained the majority. <BR/><BR/>Is this isolated behavior by our ccc or has it always been this way? If it has always been this way, then I don't know why anyone would want to live in Indianapolis and why anyone would stay here if they are in a position to move.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1163529067992696882006-11-14T13:31:00.000-05:002006-11-14T13:31:00.000-05:00<I>You speak only ill of dems and only good of pubs.</I><BR/><BR/>There's Dems worthy of speaking good ... for example there is ... ummm ... hmmm ... oh I know ... oh wait no ... oh yeah - I do wish the best of luck to Beth White because no matter who runs the elections in Marion County, they will be screwed up. Same though she is so partisan that she can't see the forest for the trees.<BR/><BR/>I can speak ill of the GOP now that the election is over. I don't think Mike Murphy treated the ticket very well. I for one am looking forward to some fresh leadership in the county GOP. The GOP put all its eggs in one basket - yeah that one we did pull off the win. At the expense of every other county office. All the boards (such as liquor control) and commissions will be stuffed with Dems now. The entire city will be at the beckon call of Mayor Bart. Just like Chicago is at the pleasure of one King Richard II. We can see from 175 miles away what kind of a s**thole it is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1163519959068400272006-11-14T10:59:00.000-05:002006-11-14T10:59:00.000-05:00AI, although the state "sets" the salaries of judges, prosecutors and others (county welfare directors, for one), the local governing body usually is required to kick in some of the salary or fringes.<BR/><BR/>The last time I checked, it was around 17%. That was 2000 or so. I suppose the statute could've changed altogether, but I don't think so.<BR/><BR/>Often, in Indiana counties, the local portion of these state-mandated judicial salaries is paid by the local share of traffic ticket revenue and portions of other court filing/docket fees.<BR/><BR/>I don't know what happens if the locality refuses to pitch in the local share. I'm assuming it happens rarely, and if it did, judges have the power to mandate.<BR/><BR/>Which amounts to checkmate.<BR/><BR/>Nonetheless, if I were a criminal attorney making decent money, I'll be damned if I'd leave it to be prosecutor. The job can be satisfying, I guess, but in a county the size of Marion, just about any given day, about 50% of the people are gonna think you're a complete idiot.<BR/><BR/>Regardless of party. And there are thousands--tens of thousands--of annual screwup opportunities by any number of the poorly-paid minions who work for you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1163519111306118072006-11-14T10:45:00.000-05:002006-11-14T10:45:00.000-05:00You seem to be making it a partisan discussion, Hailstone, which was not my intent in making the comment about Brizzi.<BR/><BR/>One of the many differences between you and me is that I am openly critical of members of both parties, and I also can (and do) say kind things about both. You speak only ill of dems and only good of pubs. If you can find a place to prove me wrong go ahead, I'll be glad to eat my words.<BR/><BR/>I, too, think the sheriff pay thing stinks to high heaven, and I'm sure Anderson would have gladly (and quietly) pocketed it had there been no fuss made and no imminent election. <BR/><BR/>I met Anderson's opponent in the election a couple times, and my take on it is he would have made a fine sherriff. I think he had difficulties campaigning; I'm sure he was a better cop than a politictian. Not such a bad thing.Jeff Newmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16442791690252112600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1163510859605277272006-11-14T08:27:00.000-05:002006-11-14T08:27:00.000-05:00Anonymous 8:19 I was about to say the same thing. Take a peek at the salaries for some of the jobs listed on the IndyGov web site. In the words of Tokyo Rose Wilson - PITIFUL!<BR/><BR/>Jeff Newman - compare apples to apples what did Frank Anderson get that he "gave back"? I recall that was about a 100% raise, not including the tax proceeds that he can legally pocket.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1163510750638901252006-11-14T08:25:00.000-05:002006-11-14T08:25:00.000-05:00I'm somewhat bothered by Bob Clifford's comments in the Star this morning that the money was already in the budget; he had merely forgotten to ask for the ordinance change before now. Clearly, the budget was not advertised as including an increase for these elected officials. Jeff, on Brizzi's race, the prosecutor's pay is set by state statute and it had not been raised for many years. The council has been periodically raising the pay for the other county offices. Again, though, I don't think these officeholders are paid too much as it is. Before that last prosecutor's raise, the prosecutor in the small county where I grew up in Illinois was paid more than the Marion Co. prosecutor.Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1163510348340087162006-11-14T08:19:00.000-05:002006-11-14T08:19:00.000-05:00Amen, Gary. Condoleeza Rice makes good money. She doesn't need a raise.<BR/><BR/>I'm beginning to think that the council Democrats need a bullshit barometer. <BR/><BR/>This is the stupidest idea I've seen in a long time, and that's saying a lot. <BR/><BR/>Give the raises to the county workers. Many of them are working at or below poverty level. Republicans failed to get those salaries up for decades. They've got a lot of ground to make up. The revolving door on some of these jobs is tremendously wasteful. Government on the cheap isn't always good. These public servants work for us, and sometimes I am amazed at the quality of work for the salaries paid.<BR/><BR/>This is serving up a campaign issue to Republicans for 2007. The mayor's popularity wojn't be hurt by it, but this is just one more example of poor council leadership.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1163509578500551202006-11-14T08:06:00.000-05:002006-11-14T08:06:00.000-05:00Jocelyn, that has nothing to do with the topic. You promised a long time ago you were getting on your own site. I'm going to have to ask that you fulfill that promise and stop loading up this blog with off-topic commentsGary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1163508284335024172006-11-14T07:44:00.000-05:002006-11-14T07:44:00.000-05:00Jocelyn, what does that insanely long response have to do with the topic?<BR/><BR/>A shame the city is so strapped for cash. If anyone deserves a 3% raise it is the ridiculously underpaid city workers. I'll grant Jeff this in that it would barely cover inflation.<BR/><BR/>The emphasis behind raising the prosecutor pay wasn't merely to raise Carl Brizzi's pay, but to raise the deputy and public defender pay as well. In 2002 the starting pay for those positions was $33,800/year. Who expects a recent law graduate with $50,000 - $70,000 of student law debt to take a job earning that little? At least now for Marion County those jobs start around $43,000/year.<BR/><BR/>The timing of this pay raise is naturally suspect, but all pay raises with elected positions will be suspect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1163506283224240682006-11-14T07:11:00.000-05:002006-11-14T07:11:00.000-05:00I think in fairness it should be pointed out that Brizzi's pay raise was $20,000, which was around a 20% increase from his previous salary. This "controversial" 3% raise barely covers inflation.Jeff Newmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16442791690252112600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1163494084718715232006-11-14T03:48:00.000-05:002006-11-14T03:48:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com