Comments on Advance Indiana™: Hispanic Vote Made A Big Difference

What a great thing it would have been if the gover...

2006-11-19T01:54:00.000-05:00

What a great thing it would have been if the government had actually come down on the employers that had to close shop on the day the illegal immigrants had their shutdown. If you want to stop the flow of illegal immigrants, you do it by punishing the people who are encouraging them to come here with an opportunity for a better life, not by merely punishing those who take advantage of the opportunity. It is so hypocritical that nothing was done to all the companies that shut down during that walk-out. Investigations potentially resulting in fines, at a minimum, would have been appropriate.
-Tiger

First off, this constant carping in which a few of...

2006-11-18T12:24:00.000-05:00

First off, this constant carping in which a few of you engage on this blog is soooo juvenile and, most damning, BORING!!!!

To my point: In the U.S., political parties that have set themselves against some segment of the population, that have been grounded on the narrowing of the scope of American rights, have ended up on history's dustheap, where they belong. This is where the GOP is headed. As an ex-Republican, I think this is sad, but totally deserved. I hope what will result will be a new movement of pragmatic, centerist conservatives advocating smaller government, social justice and equality, muscular but humble foreign policy, and fealty to the Constitution. That's the role the GOP is supposed to play in the needed tension of American politics, but it has failed.

Also, Blue collar worker came back ot the Democrat...

2006-11-18T10:32:00.000-05:00

Also, Blue collar worker came back ot the Democrats for the first time since 2002.

btw, please cut out the "Tokyo Rose" crap - callin...

2006-11-18T09:47:00.000-05:00

btw, please cut out the "Tokyo Rose" crap - calling gay men with feminine names in a hostile manner is so out of it anymore - civilized and decent folk dont do it.

Sir Hailstone, The immigration laws your ancestors...

2006-11-18T01:26:00.000-05:00

Sir Hailstone, The immigration laws your ancestors were subjected to was quite different than the laws today. Essentially, you came to the U.S. (without prior approval of a visa) and stayed here for a certain period of time and were granted U.S. citizenship. As to the illegals from Mexico, our own government basically waved them in and made conditions hospitable for their entry as an appeasement to U.S. employers. As an immigration attorney, I can assure you that some of our most prominent employers in this state knowingly and willingly employ illegal aliens. They do so without any fear of retribution from our government. Please don't blame the people who took advantage of these circumstances. If the government had been serious about illegal immigration from Mexico, it would not have occurred in the first instance.

Hailstone:Rest assured that your ancestors, had th...

2006-11-18T01:00:00.000-05:00

Hailstone:

Rest assured that your ancestors, had they been just across a river, or even in the same hemisphere, would have undoubtedly attempted to enter the United Sates any way they could have -- including illegally by crossing the desert South West under cover of darkness.

Your ancestors were presumably white; however, the fact is that people of all races and nationalities long to come to the United States -- just like your white ancestors did, and will do so however they can.

Bigots and racists all across our country are fond of saying everything would be fine only if these 'illegals' had just done it, as you say, "LEGALLY".

These bigots say it's not racism that upsets them about these brown-skinned folks, but rather that they 'broke the law'. And since they broke the law when they crossed our boarder, they're bad people and must uproot their families and leave the USA.

The only law they broke was coming here to work hard and do the jobs that fat and lazy white Americans won't do.

I'm confident you've broken plenty of laws yourself, sir. Did you ever get a speeding ticket? Illegally park your car? Drive on an accidentally expired drivers license? Drive slightly inebriated? Would having broken any of those laws disqualified you from staying here if you'd crossed over illegally and worked hard to build a life for your family, by becoming a responsible and hard working citizen?

You say send em back -- because the only law they broke was crossing our boarder illegally. And you wonder why Hispanics voted overwhelmingly for a party that did not scare them, like your's has.

I'm all for LEGAL immigration. I'm of German ances...

2006-11-17T22:10:00.000-05:00

I'm all for LEGAL immigration. I'm of German ancestry. [hold your German war humor I've heard it all] My ancestors came here LEGALLY and went thru the process at the time to become legal citizens. It's the sneaking across the border and obtaining false documents that's the issue here. Not coming across and going thru the process just like everyone else has done in the past 230+ years.

And those stats - were not for the state but nationwide. Though Tokyo Rose can't let the facts get in the way of a good story.

According to the U.S. census data, the Hispanic po...

2006-11-17T21:15:00.000-05:00

According to the U.S. census data, the Hispanic population in Marion County is just under 6%. I suspect the actual number to be much closer to 10%. The Hispanic share of the voting population is probably only about 3-4% because a fair number within that population group aren't citizens. If McCain-Kennedy had been signed into law, the number of legal Hispanic residents in Marion County would have tripled within a year. Within a few short years, we would probably have about 25,000-30,000 Hispanic voters in the county instead of the 6,000 we probably have now.

I thought it was interesting that Brizzi bought so...

2006-11-17T21:02:00.000-05:00

I thought it was interesting that Brizzi bought some billboards in Spanish - the Indpls Democrats printed up some Spanish-language generic slate posters. Ads were bought in Spanish-language newspapers too. I wonder if any local politicians bought radio spots in Spanish? In 1998 Carson had some campaign fliers in Spanish - I think they were the first in Central Indiana.

Here's a shocker, Wilson, and I'm sure you realize...

2006-11-17T20:36:00.000-05:00

Here's a shocker, Wilson, and I'm sure you realize it: the election's over. Your lady won.
No more Dickerson slams, OK?

Dead horse, meet Wilson.

Republicans nationally may recognize their prdicament. Here in Indiana, more particularly Marion County, the far-right has seized control of the party. They bash Hispanics, gays, civil libertarians, public schools, unions...you get the idea. It's Rove 101.

They do it because it works. They dangle red meat in front of their core voters, and stimulate turnout. I strongly doubt the stated statistics flowed through to this state. If they were true in Indiana, even Chairman Murphy and his minions would have to pay attention.

On the radio, shortly before the election, I hear...

2006-11-17T18:50:00.000-05:00

On the radio, shortly before the election, I heard the Sainted Eric D. explain to a caller that we must "triage" the immigrant problem by immediately shutting off the border with Mexico with fences and increased patrols - how to deal with existing immigrants could be dealt with later but with 1/2 to 1 million illegal immigrants per month [sic!] border control was primary. I was astounded at his stated statistics.