Comments on Advance Indiana™: Abdullah Folds Opposition To 300 East

That's the way it's been in Center Township for de...

2006-12-08T08:37:00.000-05:00

That's the way it's been in Center Township for decades, and that's the way it may become in Marion County.

That's the way it is in Lake County too.

And Patrice got 83% of the vote in his council dis...

2006-12-07T20:51:00.000-05:00

And Patrice got 83% of the vote in his council district race. Harold Washington was convicted of income tax evasion by Gov. "Big Jim" Thompson, who argued Washington had never filed an income tax return his entire adult life, including after becoming an attorney. Washington went on to become Chicago's first African-American mayor. His election, in my mind, in no way excused his transgressions. He would never get my vote, but in Chicago, being an ex-con is no disqualification to public office--as long as your a Democrat. That's the way it's been in Center Township for decades, and that's the way it may become in Marion County.

CENTER TOWNSHIP CONSTABLE OF THE SMALL CLAIMS COUR...

2006-12-07T20:46:00.000-05:00

CENTER TOWNSHIP CONSTABLE OF THE SMALL CLAIMS COURT

(WITH 190 OF 190 PRECINCTS COUNTED)
27A KENT BRADLEY SMITH (REP). . . . 5,289 21.63
27B MARK "TONY" DUNCAN (DEM). . . . 17,654 72.21
27C CARLOS MICHAEL "MIKE" BOWEN (LIB). 1,505 6.16

Kinda overwhelmingly in favor of Tony it looks like...

Who's payroll is idiot 3:36 pm on.Center Township ...

2006-12-07T04:25:00.000-05:00

Who's payroll is idiot 3:36 pm on.
Center Township has a majority Democrat voting record. But, 29% of voters in Center Township voted on November 7th a straight party ticket, and 32% in the county. Clear indication the voters were not impressed with either party ticket. Overwhelming victory no? I don't think so. More reporting by the media after the election. Looks like they all sat on information until now. voters were hoodwinked yes!

Thanks for the update.At least some members voted ...

2006-12-06T16:04:00.000-05:00

Thanks for the update.

At least some members voted against it.

A travesty, but predictable.Wonder if King Ro will...

2006-12-06T15:59:00.000-05:00

A travesty, but predictable.

Wonder if King Ro will lobby his fellow councillors on this one, if it's called down?

P.S. The zoning variance was granted by a 6 - 3 vo...

2006-12-06T15:56:00.000-05:00

P.S. The zoning variance was granted by a 6 - 3 vote.

The Township Constable is an elected position - To...

2006-12-06T15:36:00.000-05:00

The Township Constable is an elected position - Tony Duncan was overwhelmingly chosen by the voters - "Sir Hailstone" is a figment of his own anti-democratic pseudo-monarchist imagination. His only existence is to scan the blogs and then bullshit against popularly elected Democratic leaders...

Hailstone - and with the help of 'corporations' we...

2006-12-06T14:49:00.001-05:00

Hailstone - and with the help of 'corporations' we're winning the war in Iraq, too! God bless all the corporations - may they multiply and take over the world!

care to back up your casual charge about the "lead...

2006-12-06T14:49:00.000-05:00

care to back up your casual charge about the "lead" flying

Not to you I don't have to back up shit. With any respectable police agency they require a high school degree. So why does a certain constable have a deputy constable that's a high school dropout? Just to play with their cars with red lights? Just gangstas with badges.

FreeRepublic

Damn right I'm a Freeper.

your usual bloviating bullshit and crap

You do enough bloviating for all of us Tokyo Rose. Now run along to TDW where someone might actually listen to you.

Hailstone - care to back up your casual charge abo...

2006-12-06T14:21:00.000-05:00

Hailstone - care to back up your casual charge about the "lead" flying from some Indianapolis politicians or is it just your usual bloviating bullshit and crap ? By now you surely have brought your charges to the attention of the FBI and Carl Brizzi (not to mention the State Police). Not even paranoid Jocelyn makes such accusations and she's about as flaky as they get! I'm sure your buddies at FreeRepublic get their jollies at hearing your fables about the terrible dangers you face in Indianapolis from Black Democrats!

Wilson Jocelyn is not the blogger on this one.

2006-12-06T14:10:00.000-05:00

Wilson Jocelyn is not the blogger on this one.

Isn't it peculiar that all the folks calling for o...

2006-12-06T13:38:00.000-05:00

Isn't it peculiar that all the folks calling for open government and disclosure all do so while hiding behind the mask of anonymity themselves?

Most of us have allergies. Namely to lead. Speaking out against the Ghetto Mafia tends to send lead flying towards you.

to corporationsPage 18b of "How to blog like a Loo...

2006-12-06T13:36:00.000-05:00

to corporations

Page 18b of "How to blog like a Looney Liberal". Use the word "corporation" as if its an expletive. Unless you're a streetside panhandler or welfare mooch, then the job you have is likely due in part to some corporation in one way or another.

with a quid-pro-quo that the homes would all be ga...

2006-12-06T13:32:00.000-05:00

with a quid-pro-quo that the homes would all be gas heat, the most-inefficient and expensive kind of heat going, because "we" own the gas company

[OFFTOPIC ALERT] I don't quibble on your statement gas is expensive. However the other choice - electric - is generated by none other than natural gas or coal. I'd love to have a corn burner, though unless you live in the sticks it's really not that practical right now.
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Why don't you all spend your time talking about mo...

2006-12-06T12:38:00.000-05:00

Why don't you all spend your time talking about more important things like the selling of our state to corporations and the 'deals' being cut there?

Why don't you talk about this administration's TOTAL DISREGARD for the minority community?

Who gives a rat's butt about this damn 'bar'?

Abdullah does not live at that residence. He live...

2006-12-06T12:20:00.000-05:00

Abdullah does not live at that residence. He lives on the eastside with the wife.

Isn't it peculiar that all the folks calling for o...

2006-12-06T12:14:00.000-05:00

Isn't it peculiar that all the folks calling for open government and disclosure all do so while hiding behind the mask of anonymity themselves?

No one else has shown an interest in the area?How ...

2006-12-06T12:01:00.000-05:00

No one else has shown an interest in the area?

How about millions in Fall Creek Place, just across the river? (A lot of it, our tax money...and with a quid-pro-quo that the homes would all be gas heat, the most-inefficient and expensive kind of heat going, because "we" own the gas company)

How about Magic Johnson's new Starbucks on the corner?

How about the TAXPAYERS' investment in 300 East building when they bought it from the insurance company?

Look around. Objectively. Many neighborhoods in Indianapolis would kill for that kind of inevstment. There needs to be more.

There are multiple properties within a few blocks of 300 East that would've sufficed for this club, and helped the neighborhood more. (Specifically, the long-abandoned property just south of the western-most edge of the Carson Ctr. park lot) If your desire for investment is so strong that you'll accept this abortion of procedure, then your standards aren't very high.

The planning/permitting process in this community is corrupted and broken, period. Somebody just needs to stand up and own that fact, and give it a decent burial.
Let's all quit pretending that citizen input into Comprehensive Plans and zoning variances, makes any difference whatsoever.

Unanswered questions, now that they've probably gotten their zoning variance:

1. When can the public see the lease, Mr. Trustee, so we can determine if it is "market rate" and "market lease language" for your buddies?

2. Who's paying the increased insurance premiums for the building, now that a bar will be there?

3. Who is on the liquor permit now that the original petitioner got a DUI a few weeks ago?

Little things, I know, but troubling nonetheless.

Anon 1128 - the bar ain't for everyone!!!! And, t...

2006-12-06T11:51:00.000-05:00

Anon 1128 - the bar ain't for everyone!!!! And, the area needs a grocery store more than a bar.

It is my understanding that Mr. Abdullah lives in ...

2006-12-06T11:28:00.000-05:00

It is my understanding that Mr. Abdullah lives in Haughville - in fact on the same street as my Grandmother. Unless he's moved recently, he's still within the ditstrict - just on the outskirts of it and no where near 300 East.

I live in the neighborhood and look forward to a restaurant/bar - my only concern is that the plans morph into something else over time (nightclub, whatever). Had it not been for Mays record with the Savoy and their blatant disregard for the law, I'd back the project 100%

But, their history leaves me some room for concern. Either way I think it's worth a shot - no one else has shown interest in doing anything in our area.

I am astounded at this new accusation (naturally b...

2006-12-06T10:54:00.001-05:00

I am astounded at this new accusation (naturally by an anonymous commenter) (is that you, Jocelyn?) that Mr. Abdullah doesnt live in his District. I am not exactly a supporter of his but I do respect his years of service to his own immediate neighborhood - it is a pillar of his political strength. If he indeed moved away recently, he lost his base. The Districts as drawn often contain disparate communities - that's the problem he faces for re-election.

"Not fair to the investors?" Considering the "inv...

2006-12-06T10:54:00.000-05:00

"Not fair to the investors?" Considering the "investors" did not follow the proper permits and procedures is not fair to the PEOPLE!!

Leadership is a funny thing, the people who want it are afraid to do it.

There are days I just hate this place.

Patrice Abdullah does not live in his district. L...

2006-12-06T10:32:00.000-05:00

Patrice Abdullah does not live in his district. Let's recruit someone to run against him next elections and contest his residency.

That's what the other council members have on him and threatened to make it public if he didn't go along with them. Well guess what Abdullah, the public will know come election time.

Wilson he piled on Dickerson's insane attempt to m...

2006-12-06T09:50:00.000-05:00

Wilson he piled on Dickerson's insane attempt to make this a Congressional campaign issue. It never was a Cong. campaign issue.

So lay off it, Wilson. It's not about that any more. Your lady won. Congrats to her. Voters did not re-elect Drummer on this issue. Fuhgettaboutit. He was re-elected by 6:02 a.m. Nov. 7. Sheer numbers.

The appropriate neighborhood association did not vote on this issue, for some ridiculous reason. Their leader was sidetracked and Mr. Polin then weighed in. I don't know the politics of that association, but my mind is racing with the possibilities.

Councillor Abdullah said, from day one, loudly and clearly, he wanted direction from the neighborhood. He said it loudly enough, that the Center Twp. Democratic Code was broken, and everyone knew what he meant. He now has his cover--the association was silent. Strangely.
You do the math on why they are silent. The possibilities are not pretty at all.

(Patrice's opposition to the HRO was understandable, if regretable. Can we move past that vote now? I refuse to beat up anyone any more for their opposition to that law. It passed. It's on the books. Stupid reasons abounded for opposition to that ordinance. Miss Carson and the Mayor worked the phones hard for that ordinance, to their eternal credit.)

We're all missing the boat here. This petition should be rejected because: the petitioners arrogantly ignored the process and obtained illegal building permits (which should be thoroughly investigated). (Why isn't that being thoroughly investigated? Are we supposed to beleive that a lowly zoning desk clerk handed over those construction permits without direction? Mr. Brizzi....?)

What did our grandmamas always teach us about getting things you shouldn't have?

Ill-begotten gains are wrong.

These people used influence, raw political power and bullyish atittudes to get their due. They'll get the zoning today. They'll get the liquor permit. Sadly, that's the way it goes here.

This whole thing reaks. I hope the Landlord is proud of his actions. He fancies himself a good businessman. Which is laughable in this instance.