tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post116576700299692798..comments2020-04-11T03:30:02.282-05:00Gary R. Welshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1165872169198787202006-12-11T16:22:00.000-05:002006-12-11T16:22:00.000-05:00The Intercontinental may be the more exciting bid but who is going to pay their room rates? The FFA kids? The firefighters convention? Seems a little pricey to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1165805615228794212006-12-10T21:53:00.000-05:002006-12-10T21:53:00.000-05:00Arnie is right.<BR/><BR/>This deal is a little shady.<BR/><BR/>But where was all the righteous indignation when Mike Wells lined his pockets with one, two, THREE deals downtown, subsidized at city taxpayer expense? The last one being the Emmis headquarters on Monument Circle. FOr which zero tax incensitves were actually needed.<BR/><BR/>Wells is one of the more corrupt and greedy dealmakers from the past administration. <BR/><BR/>Doesn't make this turn of events correct, but someone needs a llittle sense of history and proportion here.<BR/><BR/>The Intercontinental is the more exciting bid. I've read both packages. They're both full of incentive requests.<BR/><BR/>Who knows how it will end?<BR/><BR/>We all just know it won't end. That's the point.<BR/><BR/>Sadly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1165803987752471382006-12-10T21:26:00.000-05:002006-12-10T21:26:00.000-05:00Clearly the Lucas/Irsey Stadium is going over budget and the promised 100% increase in the convention center has already been reduced 25% to cover the shortfall.<BR/><BR/>Don't kid yourselves, the Browning project has already been choosen and the subsidies are being hidden by shifting revenue producing parking and ballroom space from CIB to the Browning project. Wells already knows this.<BR/><BR/>Whats Next?<BR/><BR/>Details for the new hotel at the new midfield airport should shift from the backrooms to the Indianapolis Star soon when everything has aready been decided and additional incentives have been promised. Dont be surprised if Wells team wins this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1165799853019461632006-12-10T20:17:00.000-05:002006-12-10T20:17:00.000-05:00Didn't Murray Clark (the CURRENT GOP STATE CHAIR) work with current Governor Daniels on getting Honda here? Obtaining development work is about connections with elected officials is par for the course. It works on both sides, AI.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1165799181849301792006-12-10T20:06:00.000-05:002006-12-10T20:06:00.000-05:00The Intercontentinetal hotel is absolutly the right project. <BR/><BR/>It's bold, its skyline changing.<BR/><BR/>It's the best use for that parcel (which, by the way, will no longer have a skating rink after May regardless).<BR/><BR/>As for your "crony" argument, if you want to be a developer, your political connections are part of the deal. Ask Mitch Daniels about all the contracters, developers working on his projects (Major Moves, Stadium, et cetera). Its how the game is played, its not corrupt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1165796228002251272006-12-10T19:17:00.000-05:002006-12-10T19:17:00.000-05:00Mayor Bart will take credit for creating hundreds of jobs (read: union construction workers - mindless 'Rat voters) with this deal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1165790576838303872006-12-10T17:42:00.000-05:002006-12-10T17:42:00.000-05:00Why in the hell would the mayor do anything at all with Mike Wells. His time on the tit past with Goldsmith. Come on. Get real.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1165777998135893582006-12-10T14:13:00.000-05:002006-12-10T14:13:00.000-05:00Yeah, but downtown is so wonderful! I'll have to admit, they don't allow the link in the chain to be broken. They keep it going from an arena, to several hotels, to a luxury hotel, to a headquarters building, to stadium to a convention center, to another luxury hotel. And, of course, they all have to be subsidized because it wouldn't happen otherwise and we wouldn't have such a wonderful downtown - for visitors!<BR/><BR/>I think anyone would be hardpressed to find one aspect of the so-called tourism industry that is not subsidized substantially by tax abatmement and all sorts of other subsidies. But no one seems to care; whether it is the Democrats or the Republicans, they will always make sure their friends get their rightful share of the giveaways. <BR/><BR/>He is still trying to give someone an opportunity to get rich (so far his fomer deputy mayor has not been to succesful) on developing the Market Square Arena site. Let's see who gets the next chance to build and sell overpriced condos.<BR/><BR/>It is all so corrupt and sickening. We need a revolution in this country, as it is clear that no one in charge is really interested in the betterment of the larger communty; they are only interested in the betterment of themselves and their "friends."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1165771143877341802006-12-10T12:19:00.000-05:002006-12-10T12:19:00.000-05:00Wow, it's becoming more and more like Chicago everyday. The mayor takes care of his cronies, the taxpayers get the shaft, and in the end, he gets re-elected just like Daley.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com