Comments on Advance Indiana™: Star Wants Four More Years Of Lies And Corruption

I saw a campaign sign yesterday urging me to vote ...

2007-10-30T06:23:00.000-05:00

I saw a campaign sign yesterday urging me to vote for a candidate who's promising better police protection and lower taxes. Sorry, Bart Lies crowd, you can't have both.

Wrong, Wrong, Wrong! There is so much "fluff" in that budget it is easy to find ways to help reduce cost.One example is 500,000 spent in new office furniture! I want new furniture too but it will wait till I can pay for it!
Once Ballard can get his hands on a real (line item) budget he can see the true picture and make cuts on spending that should have neen done long ago!

5:29, my line of thought is that if the mayor disa...

2007-10-29T14:41:00.000-05:00

5:29, my line of thought is that if the mayor disapproved of the way the council was running things he would say something. Instead he's just run away from that problem like he's ran away from everything else. Since he doesn't seem to have anything bad to say about it one can only think he doesn't have a problem with it.

I heard the mayor on the radio today, and he was talking about how his office finally has the ability to deal with a lot of the problems in the inner city (?) I'm sorry, but if you can't get it right in 2 terms and you still get reelected, you're not going to bother trying to get it right because technically, if your failures get you reelected, did you really fail?

Oh, and the whole lack of leadership really bothers me too, but I think around here the bar is set pretty low.

Check out this Website:http://www.monroegray.com/

2007-10-29T10:45:00.000-05:00

Check out this Website:

http://www.monroegray.com/

what i see with mayor peterson is that he will rai...

2007-10-29T08:40:00.000-05:00

what i see with mayor peterson is that he will raise taxes and fees as high as he can and, moreover, will stand silently with corruption rather than against it. there is no refuting either of the above, sorry. it's the record and the bottom line. the star says he is keenly aware of the city versus the suburbs.

well, bart, be aware of this, you are sending yet another family across the hamilton county line. we'll take a loss on our house but with the lower taxes and appreciating rather than declining real estate we will make it up in time.

good luck maintaining your city in the face of the smart flight you have created.

Hail,, your postings are oftne informative, and us...

2007-10-29T08:14:00.000-05:00

Hail,, your postings are oftne informative, and usually entertaining. But the corruption thread is old.

Bart's campaign contributions, from wealthy and not-so, are all listed on his campaign reports, and they're all legal.

Your wishing otherwise does not change the facts.

What in the world are you gonna do after Nov. 6? After your main target is re-elected. Collapse in a complaining whining heap?

5:56 PM.Wilson, could you at least make a juvenile...

2007-10-29T07:38:00.000-05:00

5:56 PM.

Wilson, could you at least make a juvenile attempt to write in a different manner.

Your pathetic race, gender, orientation, and religious bigotry is even beginning to wear thinly upon me.

"the reason the US Attorney has not intervened is ...

2007-10-28T22:20:00.000-05:00

"the reason the US Attorney has not intervened is that there's no corruption."

Campaign contributions from companies holding contracts for the midfield airport terminal is not corruption? Only in the mind of a LIEberal.

OK semantics - "no taxpayer dollars are going into the new airport". Talk about your razors edge, maybe no "tax" dollars are going into it but every "taxpayer" that flies into or out of IND will pay through increased fares and increased prices due to extra fees charged to concession holders.

Beth White is not trying to confuse republican wor...

2007-10-28T20:20:00.000-05:00

Beth White is not trying to confuse republican workers. Beth White is too stupid. She is calling Demo workers and telling them the same thing. She is too disorganized and wont listen to anyone...we could be looking at another election where many polls do not open...she needs to be removed from office. I am a Democrat.

Democrats must be getting desparate after the late...

2007-10-28T19:59:00.000-05:00

Democrats must be getting desparate after the latest poll. Representatives of that Party are calling up Republican election day workers and saying they are calling for the County election board and the board has reassigned them to different precincts other than the one the Party as them assigned to. The Dems are attempting to confuse the workers so that they won't show up on time when the polls open.

The Dems are planning to steal the election and will blame the Republican Party for not having their clerks and judges show up to work the polls.

This is one of the oldest tricks they play the week before an election when the races are so close.

My advice to all Republican poll workers, call Beth White directly, 327-5100 and ask her if you have been reassigned before you report to the wrong polling site on election day.

6:08...The Pulliams didn't own the paper in the 20...

2007-10-28T19:36:00.000-05:00

6:08...The Pulliams didn't own the paper in the 20s. I believe Gene Pulliam bought it in the 40s.

We are meeting at 5:30 pm in front of the City Cou...

2007-10-28T19:01:00.000-05:00

We are meeting at 5:30 pm in front of the City County Building on Monday, 29 October, for a costumed protest of the CCC. This is the LAST FULL COUNCIL meeting before the election next week.

The cartoonist, Rinky Dink, has made masks in the form of the usual suspects on the council.

If we want to win, we have to get everyone's attention. The Monday before Halloween would be a VERY GOOD TIME to do that! Who's in?

Gary wrote:"I simply don't agree. I know too many ...

2007-10-28T18:15:00.000-05:00

Gary wrote:
"I simply don't agree. I know too many people who made the mistake of crossing him, only to be on the receiving end of having the powers of city government unleashed on them in what I would describe as an abuse of power."

Yep, I know people too. And I am betting Gary and I run in different circles. Yet another reason to remove Bart and his cronies from office.

Why would anyone who knows anything about Indianap...

2007-10-28T18:08:00.000-05:00

Why would anyone who knows anything about Indianapolis politics be surprised at the Indianapolis Star's endorsement of a Mayoral candidate who's administration has been marked by blatant corruption.

During the reign of the Klan in 1920's Indianapolis, the Pulliams were most accomidating nary printing a word of protest.
That task was left up to the Indianapolis Times which won a Pulitzer for it's expose of Klan corruption at the expense of many of it's reporters careers.

Fast forward to 1971 when Mayor Dick Lugar lost his first bid for higher office on the heals of an expose of police corruption that the Pulliams were FORCED to print. Only 5 police officers were convicted after the coverup began.

Now we have only one print paper in town and yet it's historic mission to guard corruption by the city's elite in the name of progress remains unabated.

Go ahead and pull that lever for Peterson, just as those who pulled the lever for Duvall and Jackson. Then you shall see what God hath wrought on a city that will be taking in it's last gasp of air.

There will be a price that will be paid. Are you willing to pay that price? Corruption in this city will know no bounds and yet you will fear not because the murders you read about were not on your street or the drug dealers where not next door to you. Abandoned houses were never on your street so why worry? Everybody gambles so what's the big deal with black organized crime and numbers racketeering? Who cares how many drugs go thru unchecked at the new Midfield Terminal, it's not on your street? What's the big deal with a stadium that will not be paid for in 30 years, you will have died of old age by then?
Everybody lies and fudges the numbers so why would you care if it's somebody else who has to suffer for it?

Vote the bastard back in office because I don't give a good goddam anymore.

Anonymous 5:20 ....you sound like a sore loser.

2007-10-28T17:57:00.000-05:00

Anonymous 5:20 ....you sound like a sore loser.

you know, I find it interesting that the GOP fails...

2007-10-28T17:56:00.000-05:00

you know, I find it interesting that the GOP fails to endorse Greg Ballard and that he happens to be a graduate of Cathedral high school. I have no idea what his current religious affiliation is, but if he is a practicing Catholic, I can understand why the right wing conservatives won't endorse him. Does any of this really have anything at all to do with running the city. Are any of you right wing conservative "Christians" brave enough to face the lions?

4:15, I'm not a diehard Democrat, and I support th...

2007-10-28T17:29:00.000-05:00

4:15, I'm not a diehard Democrat, and I support the Mayor.

I wish he'd done some things differently, but on balance, I am pleased with his administration.

I am NOT pleased with the council, but I've put my anger into that entity, not the Mayor's office. They are two separate branches of government, thankfully.

Altho, I am relatively certain the Mayor has gotten the message, and he'll exert more influence in the election of Demo caucus leaders in the next council. If you don't believe it, watch how fast he abandons the Gary-Drummer nonsense after this election. Their bucket is empty.

Because it's pretty clear a nobody came from nowhere and gave Bart a serious run for his money, without any money. There are multiple reasons for that, many out of the Mayor's control. But the things he can control or influence, for the most part, he left untouched. I'd wager he won't do that again.

Hail, I'm pretty familiar with the deals mentioned above, and the reason the US Attorney has not intervened is that there's no corruption. Pining on about "Bart Lies" and similar drones, do not make your charges true. Far from it.

I read the newspaper's endorsement, too. I am supporting the mayor, but I disagreed with about ahlf the editorial. They need to get out of the endorsement business. As a former journalist, I'd view endorsements as a reward for good reporting. They have not earned the reward. Not even close.

Hey Indystar!If you cowards have any sense of dign...

2007-10-28T17:20:00.000-05:00

Hey Indystar!
If you cowards have any sense of dignity. Publish what Gary Welsh just wrote.

The Dennis Ryerson rag is as spineless as the rest of the Democrats.

P.S. Please cancel my subscription to your slanted news paper.

A vote for Bart is a vote for four more years of i...

2007-10-28T16:53:00.000-05:00

A vote for Bart is a vote for four more years of inept management by Bart, Anderson, Monroe et. al. You think there are a lot of homes for sale now if Bart wins again you won't be able to give your home away.

From what I've seen the only people who support Pe...

2007-10-28T16:15:00.000-05:00

From what I've seen the only people who support Peterson are a) diehard Democrats, or b) people who don't understand the issues or what's going on in the city. I have yet to see this disproved...

"Bart Peterson is a good and honest public servant...

2007-10-28T15:38:00.000-05:00

"Bart Peterson is a good and honest public servant who has done who's done much for the city"
If you really believe that than I some good farm land down in the Florida Everglades that I'd like to sell you. Seriously how can anyone say that with a straight face about a politician who has created and led one of the most corrupt and ineffective governments that this city has ever seen? Take a look at the 65% tax increase, the second vote on the police merger, the 50K pay raise the sheriff received for approval on consolidation just to mention a few and tell me how Bart is a good and honest public servant.

Bart Peterson is a good and honest public servant ...

2007-10-28T15:16:00.000-05:00

Bart Peterson is a good and honest public servant who's done much for the City.

Since when does "the City" = "Irsay, the Simon's, and a handful of other business owners"?

I saw a campaign sign yesterday urging me to vote for a candidate who's promising better police protection and lower taxes. Sorry, Bart Lies crowd, you can't have both.

Wrong. What you do is cut administration. They are making tons of cash and usually driving around unmaked take home "police" vehicles. So, what you do is come in and make sure there is no Sgt. or Lt. running say autodesk or gun permit section. You can hire civilians to do those things. Anything that does not reqire an ILEA certification a civilian could be doing. This includes management of certain departments, like HR for instance. The only sworn officers working in HR should be a team of detectives for background checks (no rank, so less pay) and the Capt. who some civilian director reports too. That is about all the sworn folks you need in such a department. Second is that in times of budget problems, you do what the private sector does: You force your top admin to do more for the same money.

Every single police department and fire department throughout the country has these problems of giving certain offices desk jobs because of who they are, who they know, etc. etc.. It is time for this to stop. A good example is that of the job of quartermaster. That could easily be a civilian job. Some admin. types will say that it needs to be an officer with rank so they can punish an officer for destroying equipment, whatever. That is bs. All that means is that the admin. does not want to deal with officers who are not using the equipment right. There is no reason a $30K/year civilian cannot keep an Excel spreadsheet of equipment loaned out, miles on a car, etc. etc.. There is no reason a mechanic cannot supervise the fleet of vehicles. If you have a gun and badge, get busy investigating or riding a beat.

I would say that those Cuban cigars and the top sh...

2007-10-28T15:05:00.000-05:00

I would say that those Cuban cigars and the top shelf single malt scotch whiskey at the Columbia Club are tasting mighty fine to the GOP financiers of Peterson right now.
Unfortunately, the tab will be picked up by the taxpayers...........for the third time I might add.
Reminds me a lot of the pre-Chavez days when I worked outside Caraccas and the "free elections" were financed by American corporate "contributions" to the ruling elite.

Has it ever occured to anyone that this whole sord...

2007-10-28T14:45:00.000-05:00

Has it ever occured to anyone that this whole sordid election is nothing more than a stacked deck of cards.
The Indianapolis Star knew,long before they published those poll results, who they would endorse for Mayor. The poll was merely a ruse to give the impression of fair play.
The sorry ass truth is that most of you have bought their line.
If you make your voting decisions based on what the Star writes then you deserve what you get.

"Bart Peterson is a good and honest public servant...

2007-10-28T13:24:00.000-05:00

"Bart Peterson is a good and honest public servant who's done much for the City."

I simply don't agree. I know too many people who made the mistake of crossing him, only to be on the receiving end of having the powers of city government unleashed on them in what I would describe as an abuse of power. Good and honest public servants don't use the power of government to settle scores with their political enemies.

Gary:You'd be alot more effective and persuasive i...

2007-10-28T12:56:00.001-05:00

Gary:

You'd be alot more effective and persuasive if you'd end your tiresome use of hyperbole and character assassination when it comes to the Mayor. Bart Peterson is a good and honest public servant who's done much for the City. You and I may disagree on certain of his priorities, but you've put yourself squarely in the "Bart lies" and teabaggers' camp when you engage in this kind of rhetoric.

There is no panacea to Indy's or any other major city's problems if its citizenry is unwilling to invest in its neighborhoods and infrastructure. I saw a campaign sign yesterday urging me to vote for a candidate who's promising better police protection and lower taxes. Sorry, Bart Lies crowd, you can't have both. We can and should have fairer taxes, and at last the Governor has proposed a plan to fix the mess his colleagues in the State Senate left us when they repeatedly slashed taxes for businesses. But to blame Bart Peterson for that mess is at best ludicrous and at worst grossly dishonest.