Comments on Advance Indiana™: The Great Turnout Myth Of 2008

I took the turnout to be the flip of the Indy mayo...

2008-11-08T09:51:00.000-05:00

I took the turnout to be the flip of the Indy mayoral race. Low turnout by the defeated candidate's party faithful.

Nice one, downtownindy.

Spooknp.....Dems dont always vote straight tictet ...

2008-11-07T18:01:00.000-05:00

Spooknp.....Dems dont always vote straight tictet but yes, Obama received republican votes......people who were unwilling to vote for the negative candidate that their own party nominated.

At least 2.6 million eligible voters were added in...

2008-11-07T17:26:00.000-05:00

At least 2.6 million eligible voters were added in the last four years from naturalizations alone. There is an expanded number of persons of voting age in the U.S. over the last 4 years as well. When you factor in new citizens and growing population figures, you get your static overall numbers.

This year, Obama carried the county by 106,000 wit...

2008-11-07T17:05:00.000-05:00

This year, Obama carried the county by 106,000 with 237,000. It seems to me that many more Dems voted and republicans stayed home.

If these people were "Dems," then Jill Long Thompson and other Dems got the same ratio of votes correct? Surely these "Dems" never voted for any Republicans.

Gary, the point was even using your numbers the vo...

2008-11-07T16:46:00.000-05:00

Gary, the point was even using your numbers the vote was up by over 5% nationally. And, the AP story went through to explain ALL the different numbers and statistics touted by various groups, including numbers similar to those presented in your post, and did not cherry-pick just one set of statistics as the be-all end-all like you have.

The AP numbers were grossly overstated. They were ...

2008-11-07T16:19:00.000-05:00

The AP numbers were grossly overstated. They were initial estimates which proved to be wrong.

Actually, the numbers were up in 2008, at a minimu...

2008-11-07T15:39:00.000-05:00

Actually, the numbers were up in 2008, at a minimum, by 5.3% of the elligible voters from 2004. Additionally, AP is reporting 136.6 million voters, and noted that "The total voting in 2008 easily outdistanced 2004's 122.3 million, which had been the highest grand total of voters before." Guess your facts are a little sketchy, as usual.

You are correct that voter turnout in Marion Count...

2008-11-07T15:19:00.000-05:00

You are correct that voter turnout in Marion County only increased approximately 70,000 voters. In 2004, Kerry carried Marion County by 6000 votes with 162,000 votes. This year, Obama carried the county by 106,000 with 237,000. It seems to me that many more Dems voted and republicans stayed home.

Here's what I think: he isn't a tyrant. He's a goo...

2008-11-07T14:29:00.000-05:00

Here's what I think: he isn't a tyrant. He's a good family man. And if Republicans don't vote it is the fault of their own party.

How can Obama be a good parent when he's consumed ...

2008-11-07T14:14:00.000-05:00

How can Obama be a good parent when he's consumed with his political career?

Oh, sorry. That question only applies to women.

That remains to be seen, jbargeusa. He's never hel...

2008-11-07T13:25:00.000-05:00

That remains to be seen, jbargeusa. He's never held an executive position in his life so we have nothing to judge him by.

And, finally: Have you ever come across any evide...

2008-11-07T13:17:00.000-05:00

And, finally: Have you ever come across any evidence in the media or on-line that Barack is not a good family man? It appears that he is very close to family and I'm curious if the right (and I'm including you in that, Advance Indiana) is willing to grant the possibility that Barack is a good father and a good husband.

Another question: If there is low Democratic turn ...

2008-11-07T13:12:00.000-05:00

Another question: If there is low Democratic turn out is that the responsibility of the Republican Party? Or is that charge one-sided?

Okay, fair enough. You're saying his campaign used...

2008-11-07T13:10:00.000-05:00

Okay, fair enough. You're saying his campaign used "the same tactics deployed by every significant, charismatic tyrant" and so I will simply ask you directly: do you think Barack Obama is a tyrant?

Hey, Wilson, tell that anonymous blogger friend of...

2008-11-07T12:10:00.000-05:00

Hey, Wilson, tell that anonymous blogger friend of your's who calls himself StAllio to do a little bit more research on Hamilton County before he starts tossing around figures to discredit me. You might want to start by telling him that Hamilton County's population grew by nearly one-third from 2000-2006. The population expansion in Hamilton County explains a significant amount of the higher number of voters in Hamilton County this year from four years ago.

In the end the truth will prevail. It will take fo...

2008-11-07T11:38:00.000-05:00

In the end the truth will prevail. It will take four and maybe eight years but it will come out. Obama has to stand and deliver. I for one don't think he will.
One day in the near future I may have to eat my words, but I truly believe that it will be Obama’s supporters asking someone to pass them the salt and pepper.

In 2004 in Indianapolis 323,673 total votes were c...

2008-11-07T09:27:00.000-05:00

In 2004 in Indianapolis 323,673 total votes were cast but in 2008 there were 374,088 total votes: an increase of 15.6%. Not too shabby!

A careful examination of downticket races shows the hardcore GOP turnout remained pretty static - the surge of voters voted Democratic...

Like you, I have no idea what kind of father Obama...

2008-11-07T08:07:00.000-05:00

Like you, I have no idea what kind of father Obama is to his two daughters. I've never been in his home or watched him interact with them. And don't twist my words. I said he rose to power the same way some of the great tyrants rose to power.

Low republican turn is the cause of the figures, a...

2008-11-07T07:10:00.000-05:00

Low republican turn is the cause of the figures, and thus Obama is like a tyrant? You're venturing into weirdness with that one. By the way, I do have one question for you: do you consider
Barack Obama to be a good father to his 2 daughters? Do you consider Barack Obama to be a good family man? I eagerly await your response?