Comments on Advance Indiana™: Pence Courts RFRA Redux: Signs Anti-Abortion Bill Into Law

NUVO does articles- news?

2016-03-27T22:20:55.793-05:00

NUVO does articles- news?

An Irish schoolteacher who came to a Jerusalem hos...

2016-03-27T13:07:45.306-05:00

An Irish schoolteacher who came to a Jerusalem hospital convinced she was about to give birth to the Baby Jesus when in fact she was not even pregnant.
A Canadian tourist who believed he was the Biblical strongman Sampson and tried to tear stone blocks out of the Wailing Wall.
An Austrian man who flew into a rage in his hotel kitchen when staff refused to prepare the the Last Supper for him.
These are just a few examples of what has come to be known as the Jerusalem Syndrome: a well-documented phenomenon where foreign visitors suffer psychotic delusions that they are figures from the Bible or harbingers of the End of Days.
Israel’s health ministry records around 50 cases a year where a tourist’s delusions are so strong that police or mental health professionals are forced to intervene. Many more incidents go undocumented on the streets of Jerusalem’s Old City.
The city’s hospitals are expecting fresh cases as tourists flock to Jerusalem for the Easter weekend and doctors are preparing now-familiar routines of alerting foreign embassies that one their citizens believes he is John the Baptist or King Solomon.

Evidence of the Jerusalem Syndrome dates back to Medieval times and observers throughout the centuries have noted the air of madness that seems to hang over the city.
As J.E. Hanauer, a British traveller and Anglican vicar, wrote in around 1870: “It is an odd fact that many Americans who arrive at Jerusalem are either lunatics or lose their mind thereafter.”

The editorial stance at NUVO is that HEA 1337 does...

2016-03-27T12:51:09.805-05:00

The editorial stance at NUVO is that HEA 1337 does not protect the interests of pro-choice or anti-choice women. It does not, in fact, protect women and children at all. HEA 1337 violates Roe vs. Wade and, in many cases, could endanger the lives of mothers across the state. It is a piece of legislation that was rushed through the Statehouse, and a bill that many self-identified pro-life legislators voted against.

Simply put, HEA 1337 makes Indiana the most hostile state for women’s rights in the nation.

NUVO will begin a series of articles on aspects of this terrible, terrible mistake.

I know. Like the pastors that condemn homosexuals...

2016-03-27T12:28:18.685-05:00

I know. Like the pastors that condemn homosexuals and then get caught in the mens room or advertising on Grindr. Just the way it is. The more they condemn or bellyache about something th e more they are hiding something. They can't seem to live and let live. EWveybody has to do things their way, because some God they believe in. The rest of us live in the real world.

Anon 8:35 AM The poster did not say at what time ...

2016-03-27T09:20:47.022-05:00

Anon 8:35 AM

The poster did not say at what time in the pregnancy the girl had her abortion. Blob, fetus or baby - semantics. It IS a baby and can only mature (in a healthy pregnancy) into a full term BABY! A human baby, nothing else.

Why do some pro-choice people believe that a human baby only has rights once it has been born? And please remember that the baby has it's own distinct DNA. It is different than the mother's or father's DNA.

It is a unique life. It deserves protection.

Sorry, I guess I'm more in agreement with the ...

2016-03-27T08:35:30.012-05:00

Sorry, I guess I'm more in agreement with the guy, or woman, who approved of the girl's abortion. More of a "blob" than a baby in those early weeks. Not a killing. Get over yourselves. Also know plenty of girls from Christian families who have had abortions, even though their parents won't admit.

And 9:38 is an accomplice to murder, 3:34. Thank ...

2016-03-26T22:09:51.635-05:00

And 9:38 is an accomplice to murder, 3:34.

Thank you for an excellent response, 3:34.

"Nobody "wanted" an abortion. But e...

2016-03-26T15:34:42.471-05:00

"Nobody "wanted" an abortion. But everybody wanted her to go on to college."

I understand that you are saying that the girl in your family did not agree to the sex - it was rape. She had an abortion, went to college, got married and has two other children. Only she knows how the abortion still affects her. It does, believe me.

Please don't trivialize her choice to kill her first baby. She killed a human being - not a blob of cells.

And don't forget that this child who was killed did not get a chance to go to college, get married or have children. Those "choices" were taken away by the girl in your family and those who influenced her decision.

Does the law prohibit parents from choosing to abo...

2016-03-26T14:36:26.088-05:00

Does the law prohibit parents from choosing to abort a child if it has a genetic propensity of being gay?

doing fine at tap dancing around "accountabil...

2016-03-26T14:33:02.904-05:00

doing fine at tap dancing around "accountability and responsibility"

PS: I managed a bar in Broad Ripple for 5 years. It takes two to tango.

Ahahahahahahaha a cherry picking anecdote

Please. If you old Christians don't want to h...

2016-03-26T09:38:56.000-05:00

Please. If you old Christians don't want to have an abortion, then don't have one. Lock up your daughters. Get ready to enforce that shotgun marriage. For the rest of us, just stay out of our business. A girl in our family got pregnant after a boy at a party got a little too pushy on her after a party. Nobody "wanted" an abortion. But everybody wanted her to go on to college. Now she's married to a great guy of her own choice, she has her education, and two children that they were prepared for emotionally and financially. Nobody in our family thinks her very early abortion was a murder. Such hyperbole from you bible thumpers. Go handle snakes or talk in tongues, Christian ideologues. Leave the rest of us alone. We're doing just fine without your mystical beliefs and your terrible, hypocritical morality.

Liberals cry and beg for a democracy, then run to ...

2016-03-26T09:02:30.589-05:00

Liberals cry and beg for a democracy, then run to the constitution when the democracy doesn't go their way.

Nobody said you couldn't murder to cover up poor life choices. Just that you'll be doing it somewhere else on your own dime.

Think of how much more free and safer you will feel in Russia, Cuba, China, pick a socialist bastion (not many left!)

No Anon 6:48, the Constitution is the law of the l...

2016-03-26T08:30:34.068-05:00

No Anon 6:48, the Constitution is the law of the land; a document inextricable from the Declaration of Independence which observes rights to LIFE, LIBERTY & the pursuit of HAPPINESS. "Weird" is the tyrannic notion that some citizens must labor in service to the abortive desires of other citizens, who would steal or abuse their property / labor to that end.

...and you don't think the Congress enacts &qu...

2016-03-26T06:48:01.572-05:00

...and you don't think the Congress enacts "nutty" laws? Sorry, but despite what conservatives love to toss out there, the Supreme Court is the law of the land. Legislatures enact all sorts of stupid laws, and if you don't know that then you don't read much, and the Courts are great deciders to protect us from ideologues like Pence and his little theocratic cabal. I believe in separation of church and state. We don't need restrictions on women's rights. We need restrictions on too much religious interference in personal liberties.

"The Supreme Court has guaranteed the right t...

2016-03-25T20:36:51.730-05:00

"The Supreme Court has guaranteed the right to abortion in the first 20 weeks."

The Supreme Court is not the legislative branch. The Supreme Court can't just enact laws.

At its best, an argument might be made that the Supreme Court can invalidate an existing law, but invalidating a law is not the same as enacting into law the negative of the overturned law.

Liberals love the the Supreme Court, because liberals fail at using real government to get their nutty laws passed.

"We support abortion so that women don't ...

2016-03-25T19:32:08.187-05:00

"We support abortion so that women don't end up pregnant before they are ready and able to want their child."

:V

Did you read that before you typed it?

Yes, Whizzer White was an Indiana fanatic. Chew o...

2016-03-25T19:24:10.736-05:00

Yes, Whizzer White was an Indiana fanatic. Chew on this if you want to worship at the feet of Roe:

http://womenshistory.about.com/library/etext/gov/bl_roe_m.htm

What a bunch of weird Indiana fanatics you are. A...

2016-03-25T19:07:37.409-05:00

What a bunch of weird Indiana fanatics you are. A woman has the right to an abortion in the first trimester. Roe v Wade. Beat your Bibles all you want. You follow the parts of the Bible that suit you and you impose your silly rules on everybody else. Witness the Alabama governor, droning on and on about one man one woman marriage; now caught having phone sex with an aide, his wife divorcing him. Its just the hypocrites you are that you profess to above the murder while incessantly funding the largest, deadliest military in the history of the planet. We support abortion so that women don't end up pregnant before they are ready and able to want their child. We give them a chance to go to college, get married, and choose the time to have children. It isn't murder, you're so stupidly brainwashed by your weak minded devotion to a God. How about you mind your own business and leave other women to mind theirs without reference to your silly religion.

So, is the lawsuit gong to be against Planned Pare...

2016-03-25T17:54:45.205-05:00

So, is the lawsuit gong to be against Planned Parenthood for not taking orders for baby body parts?
Do they have shareholder's(other than the democrat party)? How many statutory rapists has PP turned in to Indiana authorities?

"She doesn't want a baby bump when she go...

2016-03-25T16:35:27.810-05:00

"She doesn't want a baby bump when she goes to the beach. The law doesn't stop her from getting an abortion."

Gary I understand what you are saying, but doesn't your example - the ability to get an abortion for any reason - really show how low we have sunk? How little some value human life!

Some people have looked at allowing parents/mother to have their baby killed up to a certain age. Search the Internet for After Birth Abortion. Not here, yet, and not legal, but at one time abortion was not legal either.

Anon 8:39 I'd be more inclined to respect you...

2016-03-25T16:29:37.338-05:00

Anon 8:39 I'd be more inclined to respect your "what women can and can't do with their bodies" argument if you gave a care about the women who are ripped out of the womb for the sake of expediency and vanity. It's murder, no matter what you and the chattering classes call it. No, wait, murder is when it happens one time. When it's millions of times, it's genocide.

Anon1:02, Title 9 forbids gender-based discriminat...

2016-03-25T15:50:34.254-05:00

Anon1:02, Title 9 forbids gender-based discrimination. The ADA bans disability-based discrimination. Neither is based on religion. This law does both and has no more a religious basis than do Title 9 and the ADA.

Contraceptive abortion is murder & it doesn...

2016-03-25T15:43:43.547-05:00

Contraceptive abortion is murder & it doesn't require faith affiliation to understand that. A baby's O2 exchange status is an irrational excuse; in vs ex vitro. Abortion proponents however, are cultish in their insistence on public funding; forcing the bodies of others to labor in service to the tyranny of THEIR abortion demands.

Mike Pence’s sadistic abortion law: Wow. Tired of...

2016-03-25T14:57:35.986-05:00

Mike Pence’s sadistic abortion law: Wow. Tired of harassing the lgbt, Indiana passes a draconian anti-choice bill geared towards humiliating and bankrupting women who have abortions. The bill is one of those omnibus anti-choice bills Republicans are fond of these days, a giant bill stuffed with as many asinine restrictions on abortion with an eye towards making abortion as miserable and humiliating an experience as possible, and ideally something women can’t get legally at all. The sadism of the whole thing is truly breathtaking.

After all, Pence and Indiana Republicans have not expanded services for families with disabled children to go along with this bill forcing childbirth on women. If they really cared about the wellbeing of disabled children, they would want them to be provided for. Forcing them on women who don’t have the capacity to raise a disabled child and then refusing to help with the child’s care is not what compassion actually looks like.

On top of making women drive far away to have legal abortions, they also have to submit to be counseled, and they have to listen to the fetal heartbeat with a doctor; there is the financially bizarre new rule that the aborted remains be cremated and interred, both of those things costing tons of money and requiring the hiring of a funeral director. Thanks Mike Pence. Just what we wanted. An old white evangelical preacher forcing women into yet more unfortunate financial situations.

All i ever read from these elected politicians is ...

2016-03-25T13:16:13.331-05:00

All i ever read from these elected politicians is I I I. They are elected by the people and not for there own single minded beliefs they think they have. I do not care about their personal beliefs. I am a vet and fought for they can have a say but remember they are elected to represent their people and not for their own beliefs.

Also while I am at it just look at all of the money they waste and spend on all of these laws which are best for us. Could not that money be more well spent on worthwhile items like a cell phone law with solid teeth in it to save lives and would require a no brainer passage at little or no expense except to the cell phone carriers which I would say own the politicians in Indiana.