Comments on Advance Indiana™: No Second Chance For Gary Jennings?

Flipper is right. There is a little bible verse a...

2008-02-02T21:16:00.000-05:00

Flipper is right. There is a little bible verse about "he without sin may cast the first stone.."

GaryJ, I am sorry to hear about this, I think you really could have done a great job.

I feel bad for true ex-cons out there, why should they try to rehabilitate? This sends a clear message that you can never pay it back to society enough.

a drunk is a drunk is a drunk...

2008-02-01T14:44:00.000-05:00

a drunk is a drunk is a drunk...

The only difference between most of us and Garyj i...

2008-02-01T11:21:00.000-05:00

The only difference between most of us and Garyj is he got caught.

Anyone who hasn't driven a vehicle after drinking a few brews raise your hands.
Not many hands up in the audience. Hmmm
flipper

"a recently elected ccc has dui convictions."PLURA...

2008-02-01T11:14:00.000-05:00

"a recently elected ccc has dui convictions."

PLURAL!

Someone who commits an offense and gets the message, and set their life straight, is OK in my book. If you right your wrong, that's a mark of character.

It's the ones who repeat, repeat, repeat that need to be weeded out. They have NO character.

d---> The Citizens Police Complaint board is not a...

2008-01-31T21:29:00.000-05:00

d--->
The Citizens Police Complaint board is not an oversight position. As far as it being a criminal offense, yes. I plead guilty, did my time, and got over it.
I have several police officers in support of this. The same officers who could be in front of the board saying they would not like to be in front of me because I would be fair, just as the system was fair with me. I got nothing more or less than other with the same cnviction.

I agree with anon 1:20 that "A 14-year clear recor...

2008-01-31T18:13:00.000-05:00

I agree with anon 1:20 that "A 14-year clear record, after a DUI, should stand for something." Furthermore, I feel more comfortable when a police department oversight person understands the department from both the perspective of the law abiding citizen and the perspective of someone who has experienced difficulty. I like balance.

a recently elected ccc has dui convictions.

2008-01-31T17:38:00.000-05:00

a recently elected ccc has dui convictions.

3:07 said: In the Indiana Code, OWI is contained ...

2008-01-31T17:02:00.000-05:00

3:07 said: In the Indiana Code, OWI is contained in Title 9, Motor Vehicles. Title 35 is Criminal Law and Procedure.

This is true enough, but OMVWI is still a class A misdemeanor and was 14 years ago. At that time operating with a BAC of greater than .10 but less than .15 was a class C misdemeanor. Both are considered crimes. The only way OMVWI becomes a felony in Indiana is if the defendant has a prior conviction for OMVWI within the previous five year, it involved serious bodily injury, or was committed with a minor child in the vehicle (a fairly recent amendment to the statute).

What wasn't made clear was the reason WHY a prior drunk driving conviction was deemed to disqualify a person for this position. Is that based on some statute or administrative rule? Or was it just the opinion of the CCCouncil president? It wasn't that long ago this blog contained a lenghty discussion of the potential judicial candidate that had been convicted of a drunk driving causing death case as a juvenile. That didn't seem to be a problem for several people at that time. OMVWI can hardly be considered a crime of dishonesty or moral turpitude. There are several convicted drunk drivers on the police department and more than a small handful of officers have pending OMVWI cases at this current time.

Ballard is such a jerk.

2008-01-31T16:13:00.000-05:00

Ballard is such a jerk.

Don't Libertarians oppose zoning laws?

2008-01-31T16:10:00.000-05:00

Don't Libertarians oppose zoning laws?

Does anyone else see the irony of a Libertarian wo...

2008-01-31T15:31:00.000-05:00

Does anyone else see the irony of a Libertarian working as a lobbyist?

In the Indiana Code, OWI is contained in Title 9, ...

2008-01-31T15:07:00.000-05:00

In the Indiana Code, OWI is contained in Title 9, Motor Vehicles. Title 35 is Criminal Law and Procedure.

Give me a break!

2008-01-31T14:00:00.000-05:00

Give me a break!

If so, conviction in a misdemeanor case hardly qua...

2008-01-31T13:47:00.000-05:00

If so, conviction in a misdemeanor case hardly qualifies one as a criminal.

I don't know what dictionary you use, but mine says that a criminal is someone convicted of a crime. And OWI is a misdemeanor crime.

Isn't a first offense OWI a misdemeanor in Indiana...

2008-01-31T13:33:00.000-05:00

Isn't a first offense OWI a misdemeanor in Indiana?

If so, conviction in a misdemeanor case hardly qualifies one as a criminal.

A 14-year clear record, after a DUI, should stand ...

2008-01-31T13:20:00.000-05:00

A 14-year clear record, after a DUI, should stand for something.

I am assuming there were no injuries or crashes in the DUI, or there would have been more-serious charges. That would make a huge difference, if there were a crash or injuries.

If this disqualifies him, then at least one judge, John Hanley, should resign. He got a DUI last spring, didn't he?

If this is a disqualification, then why haven't al...

2008-01-31T13:16:00.000-05:00

If this is a disqualification, then why haven't all the judges, prosecutors and public defenders in the county's employ with DUI convictions not been released from their jobs?

Say what you will about those other positions (and...

2008-01-31T12:45:00.000-05:00

Say what you will about those other positions (and I agree with you), but the last thing our city's already screwed-up police department needs is a convicted criminal in an oversight position.