tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post3125366990310484564..comments2020-04-11T03:30:02.282-05:00Gary R. Welshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-82847682236681560182007-10-19T13:26:00.000-05:002007-10-19T13:26:00.000-05:002:54 did you ever consider that the Marion county GOP is in bed with Peterson and that Ballard (as a political novice) is the best thing the people could ever hope for.<BR/><BR/>At least we know he is beholden to us and not to power brokers. We just want a politician who will obey the law and strive to do what is in the best interest of the people...not the best interests of his political cronies.<BR/><BR/>Peterson covers up for Monroe Gray because Monroe Gray has lots of dirt on Peterson. Any news when the indictment is coming?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-17997388868808869572007-10-18T20:03:00.000-05:002007-10-18T20:03:00.000-05:00Yeah, Bart is every bit the upstanding and honest person that Monroe Gray is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-45902219773750238092007-10-18T18:13:00.000-05:002007-10-18T18:13:00.000-05:00WHAT!?!?!?!?!???<BR/> Bart Peterson LIED???? I find that hard to believe! He's such an upstanding, honest, hard working, caring, mayor.<BR/><BR/>Excuse me, please. I have to get another glass of Kool-Aid!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-33017483623755063822007-10-18T18:06:00.000-05:002007-10-18T18:06:00.000-05:00So the 'prove bart lies are lies' can't even recognize that when Bart says homicides are down he's lying because homicides are up. <BR/><BR/>Or, is it 'not a lie' to claim they are down merely because Bart can't see all the way back to the start of his tenure? <BR/><BR/>In school, we learned a technique in Calculus, that involved making hypotheses and calculations which often included the phrase 'for sufficiently small values of epsilon'.<BR/><BR/>So we can say (truthfully):<BR/><BR/>"Bart doesn't lie, for sufficiently small values of epsilon, where epsilon is 'how far back you start counting the number of homicides.' <BR/><BR/>What a crock! We are measuring the number of dead people, not integrating the area under a curve. <BR/><BR/>Basing a key part of your campaign on (a) an incomplete year's worth of data and (b) asserting that 2007 homicides are 'down' despite being the 2nd highest of the past 8 years is despicable. It is blatant deception. It is deliberate attempt to falsify Bart's record. It IS A BALD-FACED LIE.<BR/><BR/>BART LIES. <BR/><BR/>It is not sleaze. It is not dirty politics. It is a demonstrable fact. <BR/><BR/>BART LIES, While Indianapolis Dies.Bart Lieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01294734264133374462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-89958926006243639322007-10-18T16:06:00.000-05:002007-10-18T16:06:00.000-05:00IIRC, Sir H, the MuniCode allows for 16 Mayoral staff. <BR/><BR/>I quit counting at 32 with the current listing on IndyGov's Mayor's Office staff listings.<BR/><BR/>I'm sure that the overages are accounted to "other" departments.<BR/><BR/>I just hope that Greg Ballard relies on "outsiders" more than anybody that "insiders" would try to get him to bring on board. In the short term, that might prove to be perceived as a negative, but in the long run, I think it would be the best thing for Indy citizens' best interests.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-30292370752233128452007-10-18T14:29:00.000-05:002007-10-18T14:29:00.000-05:00Funny picture of 38th and capitol peashake at www.HoosiersForFairTaxation.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-86748541968510010432007-10-18T13:45:00.000-05:002007-10-18T13:45:00.000-05:00"they are also being hypocrites. just look at how jen wagner -- the communications director of the democratic party, an OFFICIAL for god's sake -- slams ballard. she smeared his as a racist this summer when the guy is in an interracial marriage with biracial kids."<BR/><BR/>On top of that, Winnie Ballard is a <B>LEGAL</B> immigrant to the United States.<BR/><BR/>Van: My bad. I thought Dillon was CoS and Campbell was Chief Deputy Mayor. My goodness Bart has about a couple dozen deputy and assistant deputy mayors.<BR/><BR/>From my conversations with Greg Ballard he's intending to use far less people to run things in his office.Sir Hailstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16301073859882785758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-49346971479693298732007-10-18T12:15:00.000-05:002007-10-18T12:15:00.000-05:00Where do I file a formal complaint against Sweet Pea Gray?<BR/><BR/>Chief46226Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-64513715404786023652007-10-18T12:09:00.000-05:002007-10-18T12:09:00.000-05:00Well said Steve.<BR/><BR/>Everyone knows those Bart Lies people don't lie and everyone knows they are not part of Ballard's campaign staff. <BR/><BR/>The Bart Lies people were around long before Ballard announced his candidacy. You can see them in old city council meeting tapes. <BR/><BR/>However, actual documentation of the truth means nothing to likes of Peterson's increasingly smaller camp.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-88629339413352385042007-10-18T11:10:00.000-05:002007-10-18T11:10:00.000-05:00i think people are confusing the ballard campaign with members of the general population sick of the lies and corruption of the peterson administration and ready to protest vote for ballard.<BR/><BR/>they are also being hypocrites. just look at how jen wagner -- the communications director of the democratic party, an OFFICIAL for god's sake -- slams ballard. she smeared his as a racist this summer when the guy is in an interracial marriage with biracial kids.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-69050726221778256792007-10-18T09:24:00.000-05:002007-10-18T09:24:00.000-05:00Great, 7:31, that would mean they would select Monroe Gray as mayor. I wonder if he could get Lucas Oil to sponsor a pea shake?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-13319358853819749612007-10-18T08:42:00.000-05:002007-10-18T08:42:00.000-05:00<I>"I am not worried about Bart losing but I am tired of the sleaze, dirty politics and the character assasinations being used by the Ballard campaign. I suppose when you have no money and your own party organization isnt backing you that you have to lie. Next Ballard will claim MIssion Accomplished!!"</I><BR/>1. Name one lie that Greg Ballard has told (with backup)<BR/>2. Name one promise that Bart Peterson has kept (with backup)<BR/>3. Name one Peterson lie that "Bart Lies" has alleged that is not actually a lie<BR/>4. Give your first name so we know you at least have the honor to stand behind your statementsStevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05878554765398785634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-80856567551802618542007-10-18T07:57:00.000-05:002007-10-18T07:57:00.000-05:00That doesn't make me feel any better...;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-44242977898288833052007-10-18T07:31:00.000-05:002007-10-18T07:31:00.000-05:00The provision for the chief deputy mayor to serve in the absence of the mayor is only on an interim basis. The Democratic committeepersons would select the successor if Peterson resigned.Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-43959495993994677032007-10-18T06:59:00.000-05:002007-10-18T06:59:00.000-05:00Sir H, <BR/><BR/>Currently, John J. Dillon, III, Chief Deputy Mayor would become Mayor in Bart Peterson's absence/withdrawl.<BR/><BR/>Anybody who knows this man should be aghast at the prospect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-72014457333878600012007-10-18T06:17:00.000-05:002007-10-18T06:17:00.000-05:00I also caught not only the little coughing spell, but at least one other time the Mayor kind of laughed after reciting something that wasn't quite true (remember Don?).<BR/><BR/>These debates must be difficult for Greg Ballard because he isn't an "experienced" politician and his prior management experiences wouldn't have prepared him well for adversarial debate. I imagine that "military officer" and "business manager" would have been more geared towards collaborative discussion, which would discourage adversarial confrontation.<BR/><BR/>Greg Ballard may also come off as "unpolished" because he appears to be a deliberate and thoughtful speaker, which causes him to pause while he gathers his thoughts in an extemporaneous speaking environment.<BR/><BR/>The only suggestions I would have for him is to practice more under bright lights and cameras, try to contain his gestures (on TV) to one hand or the other, and get rid of the white shirts. Both hands gesturing is distracting and white shirts aren't overly flattering under television lights.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-80812394490093240942007-10-18T05:53:00.000-05:002007-10-18T05:53:00.000-05:008:09 - If Bart wins, and leaves office the Deputy mayor assumes the role of mayor.<BR/><BR/>That would be Steve Campbell.<BR/><BR/>Someone more versed in law would have to comment of whether a special election is required. AFAIK, the acting mayor fills out the remainder of the term.Sir Hailstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16301073859882785758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-50531304519722769962007-10-18T05:51:00.000-05:002007-10-18T05:51:00.000-05:00Sorry - 8:35 is right. The bart lies crowd is hurting Ballard. I am an anti-bart person, but would never say that I am a Ballard person because of the crack pots that are related to his campaign.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-37915866748856781492007-10-18T02:54:00.000-05:002007-10-18T02:54:00.000-05:00I am not worried about Bart losing but I am tired of the sleaze, dirty politics and the character assasinations being used by the Ballard campaign. I suppose when you have no money and your own party organization isnt backing you that you have to lie. Next Ballard will claim MIssion Accomplished!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-47464383009427312002007-10-17T20:59:00.000-05:002007-10-17T20:59:00.000-05:00Ballard has nothing to do with "Bart Lies". Bart lies is citizens who are fed up with the city being sold down the river. Obviously 835 you are a Peterson supporter who is starting to sweat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-42398106110260171852007-10-17T20:35:00.000-05:002007-10-17T20:35:00.000-05:00If an entire campaign is based on the slogan Bart Lies with no explantions or proof and no plan for the future then Ballard is in worse shape than I thought he was.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-42126972772831755032007-10-17T20:19:00.000-05:002007-10-17T20:19:00.000-05:00Monroe Grey ?<BR/><BR/>:(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-18377590914505203182007-10-17T20:09:00.000-05:002007-10-17T20:09:00.000-05:00here's what will happen. bart wins. hillary choses evan. hillary wins and wins big. bart goes to washington as part of the administration.<BR/><BR/>at least we get rid of him. who then takes over as mayor? discuss.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-82486783803672845302007-10-17T19:57:00.000-05:002007-10-17T19:57:00.000-05:00I wonders myself why they didn't do the debate at the studio instead of at the historical society.<BR/><BR/>BL - I know I wanted to reach through my iMac and choke Mayor Bart. "Homicides are down 25%" but he conveniently leaves out the fact last year set a record (or came awful damn close!)Sir Hailstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16301073859882785758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-81123929725057635752007-10-17T19:44:00.000-05:002007-10-17T19:44:00.000-05:00Bart also (again) lied about homicides. Lie by ommision. Down 25% from last year? A month ago he was saying 30%. <BR/><BR/>Yet, homicide went up in 2006 by 30% so the next is up 5% over 2 years. And the first year of his first term - we had 103 homicides. It went up to 140 and is on track to 'go down' to (ahem) 123 at the current rate. It's been no lower than 105 since Bart took office. That, folks, ain't 'reduced.'<BR/><BR/>Bart Lies. <BR/><BR/>And Bart omits facts so you arrive at incorrect conclusions from his only-partly-true statements.Bart Lieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01294734264133374462noreply@blogger.com