tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post3147271245638777058..comments2020-04-11T03:30:02.282-05:00Gary R. Welshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-8436447695488916582007-07-19T19:43:00.000-05:002007-07-19T19:43:00.000-05:00That link should be<BR/><BR/>http://indianapolis.granicus.com<BR/>/ViewPublisher.php?view_id=3<BR/><BR/>Pike VoterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-30942256071937641442007-07-19T19:11:00.000-05:002007-07-19T19:11:00.000-05:00For JEN and those that want to see and hear what went on go here.<BR/><BR/>http://indianapolis.granicus.com/ViewPublisher.php?view_id=3<BR/><BR/><BR/>Scroll over to the 2:45 min mark and watch from there until 2:48+ mark.<BR/><BR/>He starts speaking at the 2:45:44 mark. After the gentleman gets done speaking ( he spoke for 2 mins and 3 seconds ) they ask for his name - he gives it. You then see Mr. Haith get up to the microphone and tell the audience to limit the clapping.<BR/><BR/>At 2:48:24 you see 2 people walk from left to right to where the man sat down. It is hard to tell who they may be - you just see the pants. At 2:48:30 another person walks over also in dark pants. at 2:48:50 you see the person who spoke and the people who came over to where he was seated walk out from right to left.<BR/><BR/>At 2:48:55 you hear an audible disruption from the left side of the screen. Loud enough to make those in line look over to see what is happening. <BR/><BR/>Watch look and listen and come to your own conclusion as to why he was escorted out.<BR/><BR/>Pike VoterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-56418595165501180112007-07-18T19:51:00.000-05:002007-07-18T19:51:00.000-05:00Aaron Haith needs to go. This is typical of the demos that are in charge now. They can not stand for anyone to disagree with them. If you do you are the bad guy. I hope the guy files a huge law suit against the city and Haith personally. Vote the demos out of office in November!!! They have no business in our city. They have destroyed it for too long now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-59190385595706368952007-07-18T19:50:00.000-05:002007-07-18T19:50:00.000-05:007:37, Peterson DOES NOT need the black vote to win. The blacks NEED Peterson to win.<BR/>If the black vote is that strong, which it really isn't, then Indianapolis would have a black Mayor by now. With 65% blacks in Center Township and 25% in the others the Carson crowd can't get a black mayor elected?<BR/>This is 2007 not 1967.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-17784986724737377742007-07-18T19:37:00.000-05:002007-07-18T19:37:00.000-05:00Bart Peterson needs the black vote to stay in. He does not want to offend them. Julia Carson and the Ghetto Mafia do not approve of Mike O'Connor being county chairman. There is a quiet split of power in the party presently. It the fences aren't mended before November they know they will be defeated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-3996881687432110722007-07-18T18:43:00.000-05:002007-07-18T18:43:00.000-05:00If the Mayor and his handpicked County Chairman detest Haith so much then why in the hell is Haith working there? Who's running this town anyway, Monroe Gray and his assorted goons from the black mafia of Center Township or the Mayor? Who in the hell is running the Marion County Democratic Party?<BR/>There's a disaster a day happening in the Peterson camp and no one in that Party is accountable for anything during this election year.<BR/>Lord help the Democratic Party if and when a REAL scandal gets legs and starts to run which looks like a real possibility at this point.<BR/>If Peterson and O'Conner don't have the power to get rid of these idiots screwing up this campaign then WHO DOES?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-29125954802570099712007-07-18T18:29:00.000-05:002007-07-18T18:29:00.000-05:00"What is it, nothing to do at democrat HQ?"<BR/><BR/>How about giving a lecture on ethics?<BR/><BR/>Are we sure Jen or anyone at <BR/>democrat HQ are qualified to teach that subject?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-413056254028180792007-07-18T17:56:00.000-05:002007-07-18T17:56:00.000-05:00"And Jen is HOT"<BR/><BR/>Must be a slow day in the "LIARS DEN". Jen has spent most of her day here trying to spread propaganda. What is it, nothing to do at democrat HQ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-12537721802178730202007-07-18T17:40:00.000-05:002007-07-18T17:40:00.000-05:00<I>No, but making it seem like the worst thing that's ever happened in Marion County is a tad much.</I><BR/><BR/>The worst thing that happened in Marion County is Bart being elected, TWICE!!!!<BR/>He and his hinchmen has ruined this city in 8 years what the republicans tried to do for 32 years.<BR/>I guess they are more successful.<BR/><BR/>And Jen is HOT!!!!!!!!!!!<BR/><BR/>Where do I join the "Bart Lies" PAC?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-73986297379940758812007-07-18T16:04:00.000-05:002007-07-18T16:04:00.000-05:00Mayor Peterson and the CCC all received a letter via e-mail. The letter informed them of our intent if they didn’t get control of crime in Indy. A group of citizens were willing to campaign against them before the elections.<BR/>That is the nucleus of the “BART LIES!” group and the new, PAC Hoosiers for Honesty in Government. <BR/>If leadership in Indy had done their jobs or had listened we wouldn’t be doing what we are now. We believe that we are doing the right thing.<BR/>If being part of the “BART LIES!” group allows me to stand up for the rights of my fellow citizen, then I’m happy to be a part of this PAC. You can help too. Contact us at Hoosiers for Honesty in Government and be a “BART LIES!“ person too. The web site is, HoosierPAC.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-14257028611057332112007-07-18T15:40:00.000-05:002007-07-18T15:40:00.000-05:00Look Jen, Wilson and all will defend Monroe, Bart, Haith and all even though they are wrong. They can't admit when their people do wrong, they just don't think it is possible. <BR/><BR/>They OWE the man an apology period.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-51860080483040906542007-07-18T15:35:00.000-05:002007-07-18T15:35:00.000-05:00Jen - what you said was <BR/><BR/>If he was wrongly ejected, that's, well, wrong. But I suspect this is much ado about nothing from the "Bart Lies" crowd. <BR/><BR/>Nothing in there that he deserves an apology.<BR/><BR/>Pike VoterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-66056296992020539342007-07-18T15:32:00.000-05:002007-07-18T15:32:00.000-05:00"A person's rights of freedom of speech is 'much ado about nothing'?"<BR/><BR/>No, but making it seem like the worst thing that's ever happened in Marion County is a tad much.<BR/><BR/>Like I said before, I haven't seen the footage of the meeting, nor do I have any additional facts, but I'm not sure this rises to the level to which some folks have taken it.<BR/><BR/>If he was wrongly evicted, that was wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-34585009519731654172007-07-18T15:11:00.000-05:002007-07-18T15:11:00.000-05:00Just a reminder.<BR/>Monroe Gray was sitting with Haith. Haith does nothing without Gray's approval. Gray could have stopped this, he shares the blame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-88813440693546727762007-07-18T14:56:00.000-05:002007-07-18T14:56:00.000-05:00"But I suspect this is from the "Bart Lies" crowd."<BR/><BR/>A person's rights of freedom of speech is "much ado about nothing"?<BR/><BR/>If Bart wouldn't lie, we wouldn't have a ""Bart Lies" crowd"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-40103104074948958022007-07-18T14:44:00.000-05:002007-07-18T14:44:00.000-05:00Thanks for the clarification. I assume when someone says his tax bill went up, he means that his name was on the tax bill. It wasn't.<BR/><BR/>As for whether they'll vote for the Mayor, I doubt it. But I doubt they voted for him the last time around.<BR/><BR/>I'm sorry his taxes went up, but it looks like he may have been a victim of a bad assessment. It happens, and I have no doubt they'll appeal and be reassessed -- or simply reassessed with everyone else in the coming months.<BR/><BR/>P.S. I'm not a struggling law student. It's not a struggle to get through law school. It's a struggle to pay attention.<BR/><BR/>P.P.S. If the guy got kicked out for no reason, he deserves an explanation. I said that before.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-68842225671490611502007-07-18T14:08:00.000-05:002007-07-18T14:08:00.000-05:00Good Lord, 1:51, try dialing in some common sense and reasoning. <BR/><BR/>The county chairman is no fan of Aaron Haith. Neither is the Mayor.<BR/><BR/>But the Mayor's party has a one-vote margin on the council. And anywhere from 3-7 council members burn up the phone lines to the 25th floor demanding special favors for friends on a regular basis. You can guess who are the offenders. The same ones who demanded Aaron be their counsel. And hasn't that worked out well?<BR/><BR/>The owner of a property could be an LLC, a partnership, or a trust, as Gary has pointed out. <BR/><BR/>If the man stepped to the microphone, gave his name and address, as is required in most such public settings, call me crazy, but I'm taking him at his word unless proven otherwise. <BR/><BR/>And I'm not going to waste a minute investigating whether he's for real, or his claim is bogus. If he spent all that time inventing facts for public attention, he'd be, well, committed.<BR/><BR/>(There is the funny man who carries the signs at a lot of the public meetings, who has a comment on EVERYTHING. And the odd lady who stopped coming, who claimed she was a minister, who lived in a garage somewhere. They're both entertianing, but they don't lie.) And if they DID tell lies, who cares? Smile, thank them and move on.<BR/><BR/>That effort spent on this speaker's veracity, would be better spent finding a solution to the property tax problem. And the Aaron Haith/thug problem.<BR/><BR/>Proportion, people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7339408112755394972007-07-18T13:51:00.000-05:002007-07-18T13:51:00.000-05:00Jen, you think Jack and Christine will vote for Bart again now?<BR/>Real smart throwing out someone whose spouse is an attorney. Worse yet is throwing out someone whose spouse is a well known corporate international attorney with ELI LILLY.<BR/>Sounds to me like Mike O'Conner needs to back away from the bar at the Golden Ace and try to pump some water out of a sinking ship.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-41113975588762803802007-07-18T13:24:00.000-05:002007-07-18T13:24:00.000-05:00"But I suspect this is much ado about nothing from the "Bart Lies" crowd."<BR/><BR/>Jen lies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-53647109428262281072007-07-18T13:10:00.000-05:002007-07-18T13:10:00.000-05:00<B>But I suspect this is much ado about nothing from the "Bart Lies" crowd.</B><BR/><BR/>The man had a contractual interest in the property (CCB). It sounds like he did not break any rules. He should have refused to leave and forced them to arrest him on a bogus trespass charge. The charges likely would have been dismissed, as it sounds like he had contractual interest. Then he might have been able to sue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-77013729946855484282007-07-18T13:08:00.000-05:002007-07-18T13:08:00.000-05:00Borgerding for Mayor!<BR/>Sign me up to help with his campaign.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-13039540585993806262007-07-18T13:04:00.000-05:002007-07-18T13:04:00.000-05:00Damn, Jen really stepped in it this time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-62412122496121187432007-07-18T12:53:00.000-05:002007-07-18T12:53:00.000-05:00I'm an alum from Franklin College, Class of '77.<BR/>Mr. Borgerding is married to Christine S. Fields. Christine S. Fields is also a Franklin alum and is currently a trustee of the the college. She is received her law degree from IU and is currently an attorney with Eli Lilly.<BR/>Now you know the rest of the story.<BR/><BR/> Jen (struggling law sudent) at TDW can spin it as she wants but I would suggest she give Chris a call to answer any questions shemight have. I'm sure Chris would be more than happy to talk about property taxes and other matters with her.<BR/>Both Chris and Jack are very good people and not the kind to take to civic activism without having a very good reason to do so.<BR/>I guarantee you this much, if they are upset with Peterson then lord help him in November.<BR/>Haith should have been a little more cautious on who he elected to toss from the meeting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-21752265793774504192007-07-18T11:38:00.000-05:002007-07-18T11:38:00.000-05:00I didn't hear the man speak, but from everything said here and on other blogs the man made some excellent points. Now, what does it matter if he lives there or not anyways? A person is not allowed to form opinions and speak their mind? Wow, what a scarey world some people want to live in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-58228322207237005392007-07-18T11:32:00.000-05:002007-07-18T11:32:00.000-05:00I have no reason to believe Borgerding doesn't live in the home. I checked it out on my lunch break and it's a very old yellow brick house. It was purchased by Brad Pugh a few years ago, who renovated it and built an addition on to it. Pugh had it on the market for a very long time. The taxes he claims to owe on it would not surprise me. Is it possible that Fields is his spouse? The front yard has several anti-tax signs in it. As I said before, I've seen him around the neighborhood before and the phone book lists his address at 539 E. Vermont.Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.com