tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post3460619939429183225..comments2020-04-11T03:30:02.282-05:00Gary R. Welshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-50482771144930194412007-12-21T04:59:00.000-05:002007-12-21T04:59:00.000-05:00The NFL owners will put their Super Bowl whereever they think they will personally have the most enjoyable time. They are all mega-rich already and don't give a hoot whether some powdunk town will roll out the red carpet and want to wine and dine them. If the Super Bowl is played in Indianapolis it depends completely on how much all the other good ol' boys are pals with Jim Irsay and want to party at his place that year. If people think that they can lure the super bowl here otherwise they are wasting their time no matter how much money they budget for it. So quit whining. This boat will float when the tide comes in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-61626460175183237012007-12-10T12:20:00.000-05:002007-12-10T12:20:00.000-05:00bart peterson / economc development.<BR/><BR/>something is wrong here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-33406235040735119542007-12-09T09:28:00.000-05:002007-12-09T09:28:00.000-05:00I have to tell you, Indianapolis will NEVER be thought of as a place to hold a convention. So why a Super Bowl. The city is a third level convention city. I can tell you it is the place you go when there is no place left to go or you have a tie or headquarters in the city. You will never hear, "Where should we hold our next meeting?" "Indianapolis!" <BR/>NOT!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-66815868646372829942007-12-09T07:01:00.000-05:002007-12-09T07:01:00.000-05:00<B>If the Super Bowl is such a bad deal, why are virtually all of the cities with large enough facilities fighting each other to get it? Why are others building facilities to get one?</B><BR/><BR/>Are you kidding me? The elected leaders in this country are like mini-Caesars. They all want something to make them more elite, more powerful, more well-known, etc. etc.. Plus, the NFL is huge, so huge that the sheeple die-hard fans will vote for anyone who helps their one precious thing in life: "FUTBAW!" This country is following the same path as the Roman Empire. They no longer exist, and someday, never will the United States. You can continue to nickel and dime the citizens, but eventually there will be no more nickels and dimes left to take, without serious consequences. Anyone paying "their fair share" in taxes is a fool. All your doing is providing for the elite and making them richer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-67992528602063917582007-12-09T05:47:00.000-05:002007-12-09T05:47:00.000-05:00Is Bart still sticking by the story that Irsay didn't threaten to move the Colts?<BR/>I find it hard to believe, with that sweetheart of a deal.<BR/>Bart just helping out his drug addicted,(oxy-contin, I think it was) multi-millionaire buddy/campaign contributor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-20702827048509105742007-12-08T20:47:00.000-05:002007-12-08T20:47:00.000-05:00The Star did an analysis of the recent stadium deals around the country. It confirmed the Colts got a better deal than any other team owner.Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-436654684377284062007-12-08T20:40:00.000-05:002007-12-08T20:40:00.000-05:00<I>Indianaplois built a new stadium that is already too small, by NFL standards. </I><BR/>Explains why other cities are building bigger stadiums.<BR/><I>This time, Irsay can pay for it</I><BR/>Other team owners pay for a portion, if not all of their stadiums. <BR/>Is Indy the only city that paid for the WHOLE thing while giving the team owner all the profits???<BR/>(I don't know for certain, can someone verify this?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-24393155129451250512007-12-08T20:06:00.000-05:002007-12-08T20:06:00.000-05:00Tell you what, 7:10AM. Show us all how this benefitted Detriot in 2006, and I may give some creedence to your thoughts on this matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-4741366283233303502007-12-08T19:10:00.000-05:002007-12-08T19:10:00.000-05:00If the Super Bowl is such a bad deal, why are virtually all of the cities with large enough facilities fighting each other to get it? Why are others building facilities to get one? The residual from conventions lasts for years. That translates into lots of airport taxes, room taxes, car rental taxes, food and beverage taxes, and sales taxes paid by visitors for years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-89287064344415871192007-12-08T18:16:00.000-05:002007-12-08T18:16:00.000-05:00We've covered this before. Former NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue told lawmakers the city would get the first available Super Bowl bid if it entered into the new stadium deal with the Colts. That promise was quickly forgotten with Taglabue's departure. The bar has been raised again. It's not enough we pumped $700 million into the new stadium. We have to cough up another $50 million in incentives to these greedy NFL team owners to even have consideration for a Super Bowl bid. Take that damn money the business community is willing to raise for this effort and put it to a use which will actually benefit the community at large. The plan for the Super Bowl basically called for closing off a big part of the downtown area and limiting its access to Super Bowl attendees from out of town. Local commoners will be told to stay away, while the out of town corporate elites entertain in style on our public improvements at our expense. This nonsense has got to stop, and it has to stop now. We have much higher priorities upon which we must begin focusing our attention if we have any hope of turning this city around.Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-19044669313217268972007-12-08T17:53:00.000-05:002007-12-08T17:53:00.000-05:00"A Super Bowl was the point of the new stadium, so yeah, the city should re-bid. They'll get it this time."<BR/><BR/>Oh, no! That's a 'multi-use' facility. It was necessary only because the convention center needed to be expanded. At least, that's what I heard....Bart Lieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01294734264133374462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-3502746968516244442007-12-08T17:19:00.000-05:002007-12-08T17:19:00.000-05:00Check out Hoosiers For Fair Taxation blog. Did you know all the city records are moving including the Veolia and US Filter con tracts?<BR/><BR/>Citizens are very concerned and many believe Bart is covering his hiney to avoid the feds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-78410501239829792142007-12-08T15:48:00.000-05:002007-12-08T15:48:00.000-05:00Indianaplois built a new stadium that is already too small, by NFL standards. <BR/>We have Bart and his band of (alleged) thieves to thank for that. <BR/>In an effort to get a Superbowl, Indy will need another new stadium. This time, Irsay can pay for it, put it a neighboring county, where the people can afford it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-3918699670600164022007-12-08T15:14:00.000-05:002007-12-08T15:14:00.000-05:00"For the sake of economic development in this city, we should all hope that we make it a priority and receive the 2012 Super Bowl. The effects will last for years."<BR/><BR/>And what proof do you have of that? There is no existing data that indicates that hosting a Superbowl has any short-term or long-term impact on host cities (other than paying the bills resulting therefrom).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-58653725984485602302007-12-08T14:39:00.000-05:002007-12-08T14:39:00.000-05:00A Super Bowl was the point of the new stadium, so yeah, the city should re-bid. They'll get it this time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-23360602267533373372007-12-08T12:01:00.000-05:002007-12-08T12:01:00.000-05:00For the sake of economic development in this city, we should all hope that we make it a priority and receive the 2012 Super Bowl. The effects will last for years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com