Comments on Advance Indiana™: Star Continues Propaganda Campaign For Wishard Referendum

IN 2007 WISHARD REFUSED TO REMOVE FAULTY EQUIPMENT...

2009-11-01T06:55:51.644-05:00

IN 2007 WISHARD REFUSED TO REMOVE FAULTY EQUIPMENT WHICH EVENTUALLY CAUSE CHEMICAL BURNS A SEVERE LIGHT BLINDNESS TO AN EMPLOYEE. WISHARD HAD THE EQUIPMENT FIXED AND FIRED THE EMPLOYEE. THERE ARE VISUAL PESTS THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING - LARGE ROACHES AND MICE. ON BRAKES OCCASSIONALLY EMPLOYEES ARE HAVING SEX IN THE NORTH HALL OF THE BASEMENT. EMPLOYEES FREQUENTLY USE PATIENT DRUGS, EMPLOYEES FREQUENTLY SHARE AND EXCHANGE DRUGS WITH THEMSELVES AND SUPERVISION. WISHARD ADMINISTRATION IS UNIVOLUED IN THE EVERYDAY FUNCTIONING OF THE HOSPITAL AS THEY APPEAR DISCONCERNED. IT IS FOOLERY TO CONSIDER ALLOTING THEM MORE MONEIES FOR MISMANAGEMENT.

The tax payers in Indianapolis are being so sucker...

2009-10-14T05:29:15.733-05:00

The tax payers in Indianapolis are being so suckered by the powers that be here, in the bought-and-paid-for local media and government. I so admire the caring citizen journalists, who, on their own dime, work so hard to investigate and educate us, about the corrupt scams the powers that be are foisting on us.

There is too much tyranny, and too little honesty in county politics. That is why I only vote Libertarian.

Tea party twist: Public vaccination day is Novembe...

2009-10-13T06:59:41.515-05:00

Tea party twist: Public vaccination day is November 3rd.

Well, Art, if I had a spare Mil in a trunk I could...

2009-10-12T15:27:11.793-05:00

Well, Art, if I had a spare Mil in a trunk I could dig up out in the backyard, or knew folks with that kind of money I'd be all over it.

This has been done earlier, but my corrupt-o-meter...

2009-10-12T11:37:38.902-05:00

This has been done earlier, but my corrupt-o-meter on the wall is vibrating and smoking, so before we lose all the data:
1)The referendum was sneaked into the last budget bill, of the last legislative session (by Senator Kenley? If I've got the wrong guy, I apologize). I'll make a wild guess that particular law and construction firms were to be likely beneficiaries.
2)There had been little in the media in the prior year regarding need for rebuilding or replacing Wishard. Can someone correct me with the media outlet, guest, program, anything that demonstrates a clamoring for this project?
3)The wording on the referendum is incredibly ambiguious. It's basically insulting to voting citizens that are to stand in a voting booth, and use the wording to help make up their mind. And, that's the idea isn't it? If your standing in the booth and you're not sure about the "right" thing, why you'll have to err on the side of compassion, right? Why give information to make a plausible, sound, logical case when you can get what you want through intimidation by guilt?
4)The suppossed cash flow to pay for this is based on a billing scam exactly when our government is on the hunt for billing scams to cover their overspending.
5)The taxpayers will be paying for this hospital constuction when the cash flow dries-up. This comes when the dollar is devaluing as global competitors withdraw from using it as a sound currency of trade, continuing national economic decimation from foreclosures and unemployment, and local public safety and education underfunding.
6)Local media you might sometimes count on for honest coverage (Garrison) or dream of for honest coverage (The Star), have either got a horse in the race or have never seen a public project they didn't like - respectively.

I want to use the logic that House Speaker Bauer used (stay with me) in nixing pursuit of property tax caps a second year: Let's wait and see. If the hospital rennovation is such a bright idea, then it will still be a bright idea in the next session as we wait and see if the economy pulls out of this nose dive. That will present the opportunity for a more honest and thorough presentation of need and funding to the taxpayer.

That'll happen. Right?

Professional investors demand a higher interest ra...

2009-10-12T09:52:29.876-05:00

Professional investors demand a higher interest rate for revenue bonds & unsuspecting investors or property owners are duped by an illegitimate process of nondisclosure; biased, monopolistic, incomplete, imbalanced, insidious- WRONG! It's unAmerican.

By unchartered assumption, government abuses terminology (language) in its characterizations of the free market; "economic development, public / private partnership & brain drain." It's not the job of government to make such determinations, it's inappropriate, like a referee jumping into the game whenever they "feel like it."

Libertarians should join Mr. Moldthan in fighting this referenduh / referendumb; the wording of which makes horrendous assumptions about the very public it claims to "serve."

Indiana is not known for being an activists state,...

2009-10-12T07:19:33.825-05:00

Indiana is not known for being an activists state, and the property tax rebellion brewed to boiling in 2007 only AFTER unfair taxes hit taxpayers' pockets.
The Star's lack of investigative journalism coupled with throwing caution to the wind, makes you wonder if they have a conflict of interest. They've written several opinion articles for a ban on smoking to make Indianapolis 'healthy', 'attractive place to live', and to bring our state health into the '21st century' with half the other states, yet they throw taxpayer risks to the wind by using citizen property as collateral for default. Hardly a healthy fiscal posture. This kind of journalism is playing with loaded dice for a predetermined outcome.

Art, don't you think it matters that the refer...

2009-10-11T20:35:58.077-05:00

Art, don't you think it matters that the referendum question has been written so they don't mention a new hospital or how much is being borrowed? Don't you think it matters that they put it in a non election year.

You make it sound like it's a fair election where the anti-Wishard people just have to get their people to the polls.
The Wishard people intentionally rigged this election from the beginning.

So, essentially, the bonds would be backed by up t...

2009-10-11T18:19:23.304-05:00

So, essentially, the bonds would be backed by up to $60 or $70 per M.C. citizen (or around $200 per household?) in property tax revenue should the other revenue sources fail.

Ed Coleman's comment suddenly helps me understand why the Chancellor of IUPUI e-mailed their staff and faculty to support the proposal. They want the land.

And Downtown Indy's comment just highlights that there is never any money in fighting the machine. But, as long as the beast is fed and that money can be used to pay salaries of legislators, commentators, their wives or to promote 'economic development' so that contractors, developers, unions and other folks can get their cut of the public dole. OR, so that someone else can get the land. Ugh.

then Downtown Indy, pony up some money and get th...

2009-10-11T18:15:16.917-05:00

then Downtown Indy, pony up some money and get the multitudes that are against this to chip in....or perhaps it is the will of the people. I am going to vote against it but I know that it will pass 2 to 1....I quit doing missionary work for lost causes years ago.

This post is exactly why I no longer listen to sel...

2009-10-11T17:59:14.834-05:00

This post is exactly why I no longer listen to self-proclaimed fiscal conservative commentators. Many are really fiscal socialists, all about the status quo and what is good for them and their bank account. If it is good for their personal back accounts, the support going full steam head toward socialism.

So the current mayor who was elected under the pro...

2009-10-11T17:18:14.328-05:00

So the current mayor who was elected under the promise no new taxes has pushed ever tax increase that he has seen. Did he rescind the increase in CAGIT, no. Did he do anything to fix the CIB, no. Did he throw out the large influential law firms, no. Did he fulfill any campaign promise, no.
Now the mayor is pushing the new Wishard via corporate e-mail and he is prosmising time off to work at the polls to furhter that goal. Is it legal for the mayor to use corporate e-mail to push his agenda? Is it legal to allow workers time off to work at the polls? Legality aside is it ethical?

Has anyone seen even ONE advertisement by an oppos...

2009-10-11T10:51:25.089-05:00

Has anyone seen even ONE advertisement by an opposition group hit the media? No, I think not. There's no money for that, although Carl Molthan is trying to raise some. On the other hand there's millions in cash for the HHC side to play with.

Yeah, that's a fair fight.

It flies in the face of logic that they can operat...

2009-10-11T10:37:31.056-05:00

It flies in the face of logic that they can operate a public hospital on medicaid and medicare funds and construct a new hospital, without increasing taxes. If one could be so profitable by doing so, all of the hospitals would be competing for a slice of the pie.

So, of course, they have to be running a scam (that should be obvious without even uncovering the facts you have presented here, People are too trusting of their government, when it aligns with their beliefs, and they fall for every propaganda program presented to them.

This referendum will pass easily just like the IPS referendum did(including $750,000 for electronic signs - no one knew they were voting for that, I'm sure).

As for the many legislative prostitutes - I guess two sinecures are better than one.

I did most of my clinicals at Wishard and did some...

2009-10-11T08:49:55.491-05:00

I did most of my clinicals at Wishard and did some PRN work for Wishard after I got my license.
They actually have some very nice areas in the building. They could remodel the other areas for much less money if they are that bad.

Ultimately this comes down to the fact that IU wants the property. If IU wants it so bad and is going to be acquiring the property after the new hospital is built, why are they not paying a large sum for the property to offset the cost?

As long as the ballot question is as misleading as it is they won't receive support from me.