Comments on Advance Indiana™: Carson's First Vote Is For Massive Tax Increase

Thanks for your thoughts anon 6:31.I was just spea...

2008-03-18T20:00:00.000-05:00

Thanks for your thoughts anon 6:31.

I was just speaking my mind. I don't need to put any of my hard work here in Decatur on this site. Those people that know me know who I am and where I come from.

Your comment only underscores my original point. People are willing to say anything about anyone as long as their name isn't out in the public. It's a nice security "blankey" and gives you a license to be as immature as those that carry them. License to hurl names, accusations, mindread, etc.

I challenge you to do what I do and sign your posts.

2008-03-18T19:58:00.000-05:00

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Jon, You are a Ward Chair in Decatur Township. Tha...

2008-03-15T06:31:00.000-05:00

Jon, You are a Ward Chair in Decatur Township. That, however, does not give you a look into the nastiness and corruption of the individuals that drive the Carson machine. You have no idea what they are capable of and likely never will. You are an outsider that desperatly wants to be recognized as a player in county politics. Your hope to get a seat at the table is pinned on someone that could care less about you or Decatur Township. Stand in a room with Andre, Lacy Johnson, Carl Drummer, Bill Crawford and Lula Patton and see how you are received. Oh, I forgot, that won't happen because you would never be allowed in the room. Why don't you stick to working for Democrats in Decatur. You have a Republican Trustee that needs to go but you are so focused on getting into the Carson circle of friends that you ignore the problems in your own area. Jon, put down the koolaid for a second and recognize that Andre will do nothing for you or Decatur and if you look at this morning's Star you can clearly see that the people of Decatur see what you will not. I would think that a Democrat Ward Chair that loves Andre so much would have done more to get his candidate elected. 9 precincts in Decatur - 6 wins for Elrod by 60% or more, 2 wins for Elrod by less than 60% and one tie. Elrod won Decatur overall with 66% of the vote. Maybe if Andre had more friends like you then we could get someone else in that 7th seat. Do me a favor, send this post to your email, then to your cell phone and text it to Andre. Let me know what he thinks.

It seems ridiculous to me when Republicans talk ab...

2008-03-14T23:18:00.000-05:00

It seems ridiculous to me when Republicans talk about "tax and spend" Democrats. The Republican alternative is cut taxes and borrow, borrow, borrow. This will come back to haunt us soon.

anon 5:25, I feel let down by the voters of the 7t...

2008-03-14T19:18:00.000-05:00

anon 5:25, I feel let down by the voters of the 7th District, not Jon Elrod. Too many didn't bother to vote at a time when our country is perhaps on the cusp of the worst financial calamity in our history. I frankly feel like I'm living from day to day at this point uncertain of what tomorrow brings. The potential for a total financial collapse of the USA in the coming months is a real possibility. Most people are completely unaware of the dire straits we are currently traversing.

You know, I was going to comment here about the is...

2008-03-14T18:22:00.000-05:00

You know, I was going to comment here about the issue. I agree with Carson's vote to end the Bush tax cuts. Beyond that though, the hatred spewed at André on this blog makes me sick, and I just want to say a few things about it.

André is a public figure. There's no doubt. Many people didn't like his grandmother (I loved that woman). André chose to step into the public eye. Still, I just think spewing your venom at him behind an anonymous name is somewhat cowardly.

I did spend time with André. I'm not a Muslim. I'm not African-American. I'm just a regular white guy that happens to be a Democratic Ward Chair. I understand that most people don't get to know their Congressional Reps.

I have spent time with André, and I have had conversations with him about things other than political issues. The first time I talked to him; he gave me his cell phone number. He actually answers it. He has answered every text message I've ever sent him. He's a thoughtful, passionate, and intelligent man who has energy and ideas. I have been to three small gatherings...all of them where the majority of the people in the room were white non-Muslims, and André managed to win over every room...with some folks having started out in other camps. I'm not a Center Township Democrat either. His base of support doesn't come from my neck of the woods.

I've seen him interact with his wife and his little girl. They look like a normal family. He loves his daughter, and she adores her father.

Say what you want about his votes, but if you're going to get personal, at least have the brass tacks to leave your name in the public domain instead of being the cellophane man or woman and hide behind "anonymous."

I'm stepping off my soapbox here. I just had to say something that's been on my mind this entire election season. I'm proud of my vote to send André to Congress.

If Elrod didn't have the guts to make a public sta...

2008-03-14T17:25:00.001-05:00

If Elrod didn't have the guts to make a public stand against Andre Carson taking blood money from CAIR then Elrod can go straight to hell.
To bring in the Obama factor as an excuse for Elrod's lack of balls is giving more credit than the man deserves.
If Elrod has to rely on bloggers to fight his wars for him then he's a spineless bastard that should have never ran in the first place. He nneds to take hius name off the ballot and send his right wing handlers back to where they came from.
Elrod blew ever damn chance he had to take this past election and he was made well aware of it and did nothing.
Quit casting blame to make up for Elrod's lack on intestinal fortitude. At best Elrod was never cut out to campaign on the Congressional level. He still isn't.
If he doesn't think his campaign days are finished then he needs to pass the pipe of whatever he's smoking for the benefit of a few of us who mistakenly thought he had what it took.
Casting blame on Obama and Carson will not change the fact that Elrod let a lot of people down, including the owner of this blog.

9:12 ... I'm not certain, but I think GWB found th...

2008-03-14T17:25:00.000-05:00

9:12 ... I'm not certain, but I think GWB found the veto stamp covered in dust in a closet sometime in 2007.

I know that for years, many wondered if the Clintons had stolen it along with the "w" keys off all the keyboards.

Alternative, What If scenario:No one in 2007 makes...

2008-03-14T16:40:00.000-05:00

Alternative, What If scenario:

No one in 2007 makes an issue of Patrice Abduallahs residency. Consequently, he stays a Council member and is re-elected and unnopposed in the 2007 municipal election. Cong. Julia Carson passes away, leaving the 7th seat open.

Question: Does anyone seriously think that Andre Carson would have had ANY leverage to be a candidate for the just-concluded special election, let alone win the damnded thing?

Gary, as much as I respect you and your genuine concern for the rule of law, ie the Abduallah situation, you must take responsibility for this 88th out of 89, "law enforcement veteran" and DHS "watchstander" being annointed on March 11th.

(sarcastic finger-wiggling airquotes fully intentional)

Something missing in this conversation is the fact...

2008-03-14T16:26:00.000-05:00

Something missing in this conversation is the fact that A GREAT NUMBER of Republicans hate George Bush and agree he has done more to violate Republican principles than any previous Republican president.

Republican does not = Bush Lover just as Democrat may not = Carson Lover.

eclecticvibe-Are you serious in thinking that 100k...

2008-03-14T15:59:00.000-05:00

eclecticvibe-
Are you serious in thinking that 100k per year is the wealthiest of the wealthy? What planet are you on?

Ron White from the Blue Collar Comedy tour has a s...

2008-03-14T14:30:00.000-05:00

Ron White from the Blue Collar Comedy tour has a saying he uses which reminds me of Andre voters in the 7th.
" You can't fix Stupid ".

9:12,The President may also veto any bill, though ...

2008-03-14T13:20:00.000-05:00

9:12,

The President may also veto any bill, though it's not clear when President Bush first learned that.

Dear Randy. Don't you understand that Wilson and ...

2008-03-14T12:13:00.000-05:00

Dear Randy. Don't you understand that Wilson and all the other far left liberals only care about the dumbing down of America, economically as well as socially. After all, lets continue to reward the underachievers. This is America, land of the free (free to live off the government, and those who strive to achieve).

9:12, technically, you're 75% correct.The Presiden...

2008-03-14T12:03:00.000-05:00

9:12, technically, you're 75% correct.

The President can impoound, delay or reverse expenditures.

But if we'd only given Bush's administration what they asked for, including this ridiculosu war's expenditures, the defecit would only have been about 12-15% smaller.

The deficit was run up on Bush's watch. It's just that simple.

He's an idiot and the whole world knows it. We're paying for his idiocy...dearly.

President Bush has veto power and not once in 8 ye...

2008-03-14T11:44:00.000-05:00

President Bush has veto power and not once in 8 years has he used it on ANY budget approriations.
I laugh when people pigeon hole the Democrats as "tax and spend" when in fact it's the Republicans that have become the world leaders in "tax and spend".
Hell, it's really not a problem. The Fed just prints more money and China along with the Saudi's buy more of the US debt.
Even today, Bush and company have agreed to prop up failing Bear Stearns with your money. You sure as hell won't find many Democrats at Bear Stearns nor J.P. Morgan for that matter.
Evan Bayh, Indiana's Republicrat Senator, is going to help Carlyle out with taxpayer assistance. Carlyle has given Bayh tens of thousands since he ran for the Senate.
Wall Street is not the domain of Democrats so when they look for bailouts they look to our Republican President and he gets it to them.
The old tired line of "tax and spend liberal Democrats" holds little very little water.
The Democrats didn't start the damn war in Iraq and they sure has hell didn't cause the sub-prime mortgage calamity that Republican greed created.
How much was the good old American greenback worth before Bush took office and what's it worth today?
How many businesses have gone to China since Bush took office?
Hell, I can't even buy a tube of toothpaste that's made in the US.
Andre Carson was voted in by 18% of the registered voters! A lousy 18% even took time to vote and they wonder why the hell idiots like Bush, Bay and Carson get elected!
When gas hits $5 a gallon by Memorial Day your cheeks are really going to pucker!
And some people on this damn blog honestly believe John McCain is going to save them.
Neither McCain NOR Obama are going to save anything! We can't even save ourselves......or even make shoes in this country anymore.
God Bless The GOP and Republican corporate America that have shipped our jobs out.
Keep printin' that money Mr. President and the Mexican Peso will overtake our Dollar in a couple of months.
The illegal Hispanics will wise up when the next military draft goes on effect. Serve in the US military and become a citizen!

9:12, who controlled congress through the majority...

2008-03-14T10:29:00.000-05:00

9:12, who controlled congress through the majority of the Bush term?

Missdem.,Don't blame me for Andre. I didn't want ...

2008-03-14T10:02:00.000-05:00

Missdem.,
Don't blame me for Andre. I didn't want him and never will. It's the other idiots that vote without really thinking about what they are doing....or are just to stupid to know better.

I agree 7:43. Knock off the "tax and spend liberal...

2008-03-14T09:47:00.000-05:00

I agree 7:43. Knock off the "tax and spend liberals" crap.

Someone has got to pay off the bill that the "no debt is to big for us" republicans keep racking up.

You just look rediculous at this point.

I (wife and myself) made $115000.00 last year. I ...

2008-03-14T09:32:00.000-05:00

I (wife and myself) made $115000.00 last year. I paid $47,000 in taxes. With the tax increase I can expect to pay 5,000.00 mor in taxes. Thats 400.00 a month. I can't afford that, can you? Must be nice in your little save 10-15% tax bracket, but for those of us in the 25%, it will got up 2-4%. Thought we had rape laws in this country. It's easy to say ya increase the taxes when it doesnt affect YOU!

Randy

7:43, The president can only spend what Congress a...

2008-03-14T09:12:00.000-05:00

7:43, The president can only spend what Congress appropriates.

The honorable citizens of the 7th get what they ge...

2008-03-14T09:07:00.000-05:00

The honorable citizens of the 7th get what they get. They voted for him. That being said, I can only hope that for the May primary there is more common sense in my party and that a choice other than Andre "Send my seed" Carson is chosen to represent us. I dont mind him filling Granny's term but for heaven's sake get us someone who knows something other than the Democratic Party Talking Points for a real two year term.

I can't believe how clueless some people are about...

2008-03-14T08:53:00.000-05:00

I can't believe how clueless some people are about the impacts of tax policy.

What about the small business owner who purchased it and is paying the previous owners over time from the proceeds the business earns? On paper they may show they made a lot of money but they may see very little of the cash.

This is called "phantom income" and they can end up with big tax bills but have actually earned no money.

What about the business owner who still needs to make a certain amount for themselves after taxes to pay the bills but also wants to expand and hire somebody or make capital investments in the business??

This class warfare stuff has to go because the people who engage in it are typically those without private sector ambition for themselves and often have no understanding of the real economic implications.

Karl Marx would be proud of Andre.

Anybody else notice that when Carson was getting s...

2008-03-14T08:28:00.000-05:00

Anybody else notice that when Carson was getting sworn in by that Pelosi person, he repeated the entire oath of office until the last line.

Yep...there's some more of that change Carson kept...

2008-03-14T08:27:00.000-05:00

Yep...there's some more of that change Carson kept talking about:

"the budget’s use of entitlement programs, specifically the Social Security Trust Fund. The budget leans heavily on the Social Security Trust Fund in its attempt to balance the budget."

Yep...he's going to PROTECT Social Security all right!

Then he votes to increase taxes by $683BILLION. Now THERE'S some change!!