<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post3777303602212276998..comments</id><updated>2020-04-11T03:30:02.282-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Advance Indiana™: CIB Sees Surplus But Will Still Borrow $27 Million From State</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/3777303602212276998/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2009/11/cib-sees-surplus-but-will-still-borrow.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Gary R. Welsh</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>7</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1262025901174925151</id><published>2009-11-10T23:13:44.158-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-10T23:13:44.158-05:00</updated><title type='text'>So sadly true!  The Star is not at all concerned a...</title><content type='html'>So sadly true!  The Star is not at all concerned about Indiana government requiring us to financially support the Pacers.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/3777303602212276998/comments/default/1262025901174925151'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/3777303602212276998/comments/default/1262025901174925151'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2009/11/cib-sees-surplus-but-will-still-borrow.html?showComment=1257912824158#c1262025901174925151' title=''/><author><name>swan</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05794934350013246729</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2009/11/cib-sees-surplus-but-will-still-borrow.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-3777303602212276998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/3777303602212276998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-237100736"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="11:13 PM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-2115467436263496334</id><published>2009-11-10T19:01:44.511-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-10T19:01:44.511-05:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>This comment has been removed by the author.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/3777303602212276998/comments/default/2115467436263496334'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/3777303602212276998/comments/default/2115467436263496334'/><author><name>Downtown Indy</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06239811599722585898</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zXyjavZjrCI/T16f6LO4sPI/AAAAAAAAAiE/_S7sKNThcJQ/s220/Green%2BBarn.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2009/11/cib-sees-surplus-but-will-still-borrow.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-3777303602212276998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/3777303602212276998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-610550365"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="7:01 PM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-6399598394356665461</id><published>2009-11-10T09:28:01.101-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-10T09:28:01.101-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The Star is part of a group of &amp;#39;civic-minded o...</title><content type='html'>The Star is part of a group of &amp;#39;civic-minded organizations&amp;#39; that still have a loan to the CIB awaiting payment.  $33.8 million was the amount at the end of 2007, accumulating unpaid interest as we speak, and due at the end of 2017.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think the Council dropped its request that they have a final say in any future contractual obligations of the CIB.  And the final impression I got is that the Councillors, by and large, feel more money should be sent to the CIB, only it should come from either the State or the donut Counties.  So, while this CIB crew may be trying to commit the City to a new Pacers contract for Conseco Fieldhouse before all of their seats on the CIB are cancelled, there is much support for this to be the ultimate outcome anyway.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/3777303602212276998/comments/default/6399598394356665461'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/3777303602212276998/comments/default/6399598394356665461'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2009/11/cib-sees-surplus-but-will-still-borrow.html?showComment=1257863281101#c6399598394356665461' title=''/><author><name>Had Enough Indy?</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09673791504434523246</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2009/11/cib-sees-surplus-but-will-still-borrow.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-3777303602212276998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/3777303602212276998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-595639358"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="9:28 AM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-5295690953593639455</id><published>2009-11-10T08:41:04.003-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-10T08:41:04.003-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Just an aside, the City Council has on it&amp;#39;s ag...</title><content type='html'>Just an aside, the City Council has on it&amp;#39;s agenda a proposal to create more control over township budgets.  It&amp;#39;s too bad that no one has the council wants to control the CIB.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/3777303602212276998/comments/default/5295690953593639455'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/3777303602212276998/comments/default/5295690953593639455'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2009/11/cib-sees-surplus-but-will-still-borrow.html?showComment=1257860464003#c5295690953593639455' title=''/><author><name>Jon</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09490253182039581408</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2009/11/cib-sees-surplus-but-will-still-borrow.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-3777303602212276998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/3777303602212276998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1651494628"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="8:41 AM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-5405182126586279701</id><published>2009-11-09T20:08:23.821-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-09T20:08:23.821-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Wait a second...don&amp;#39;t they have to run over to...</title><content type='html'>Wait a second...don&amp;#39;t they have to run over to the council before they do anything with that money?  Wasn&amp;#39;t part of the bailout that the CIB goes to the CCC before adding any more obligations to their budget?</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/3777303602212276998/comments/default/5405182126586279701'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/3777303602212276998/comments/default/5405182126586279701'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2009/11/cib-sees-surplus-but-will-still-borrow.html?showComment=1257815303821#c5405182126586279701' title=''/><author><name>Blog Admin</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15900497671781531454</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2009/11/cib-sees-surplus-but-will-still-borrow.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-3777303602212276998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/3777303602212276998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-979360372"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="8:08 PM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1176978063434511213</id><published>2009-11-09T20:04:59.698-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-09T20:04:59.698-05:00</updated><title type='text'>There are actually two penalty clauses in the Pace...</title><content type='html'>There are actually two penalty clauses in the Pacers contract. You take the one that provides for the lowest penalty.  The penalty drops a little each year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even by the most conservative estimations, the penalty the first year is a whole lot more than $50 million.  I did a scenario on my blog which showed that the 11th year penalty would be in the ballpark of $165 million.  I think the IBJ came out with the $50 million number awhile back.  I don&amp;#39;t think their reporter really closely examined the penalty provision and how it worked.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/3777303602212276998/comments/default/1176978063434511213'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/3777303602212276998/comments/default/1176978063434511213'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2009/11/cib-sees-surplus-but-will-still-borrow.html?showComment=1257815099698#c1176978063434511213' title=''/><author><name>Paul K. Ogden</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/16137003328850866711</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2009/11/cib-sees-surplus-but-will-still-borrow.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-3777303602212276998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/3777303602212276998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1767489911"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="8:04 PM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-2003289404003344338</id><published>2009-11-09T19:50:50.857-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-09T19:50:50.857-05:00</updated><title type='text'>If next we hear the CIB is giving itself a round o...</title><content type='html'>If next we hear the CIB is giving itself a round of &amp;#39;make up&amp;#39; raises in recognition of getting themselves out of the red ink, I swear I am destined to have a massive stroke.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/3777303602212276998/comments/default/2003289404003344338'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/3777303602212276998/comments/default/2003289404003344338'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2009/11/cib-sees-surplus-but-will-still-borrow.html?showComment=1257814250857#c2003289404003344338' title=''/><author><name>Downtown Indy</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06239811599722585898</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zXyjavZjrCI/T16f6LO4sPI/AAAAAAAAAiE/_S7sKNThcJQ/s220/Green%2BBarn.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2009/11/cib-sees-surplus-but-will-still-borrow.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-3777303602212276998' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/3777303602212276998' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-610550365"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="7:50 PM GMT-5"/></entry></feed>