<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post4325790439781127533..comments</id><updated>2020-04-11T03:30:02.282-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Advance Indiana™: Orentlicher Plan More Of The Same Approach</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/4325790439781127533/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/09/orentlicher-plan-more-of-same-approach.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Gary R. Welsh</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>9</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-4711732830649460286</id><published>2007-09-10T21:43:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-09-10T21:43:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>6:13, it isn&#39;t thiat easy, but you&#39;re right, it IS...</title><content type='html'>6:13, it isn&#39;t thiat easy, but you&#39;re right, it IS time to fix it.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I have some hope that the Kernan-Shepherd Commission will do that.  If the legislature follows through with their recommendations, we might see some sweeping change,.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;They&#39;re discussing one county-wide assessor (doing away with all township offices), as well as other stable taxes to replace the prop. tax.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I e-mailed Gov. Kernan witih some thoughts, and he repsonded within 24 hours.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think all the commission members are tkaing this very seriously.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/4325790439781127533/comments/default/4711732830649460286'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/4325790439781127533/comments/default/4711732830649460286'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/09/orentlicher-plan-more-of-same-approach.html?showComment=1189478580000#c4711732830649460286' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/09/orentlicher-plan-more-of-same-approach.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-4325790439781127533' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/4325790439781127533' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1114923450"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="9:43 PM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-5032944940903333905</id><published>2007-09-10T18:13:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-09-10T18:13:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>No more band aids please, time to FIX it.</title><content type='html'>No more band aids please, time to FIX it.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/4325790439781127533/comments/default/5032944940903333905'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/4325790439781127533/comments/default/5032944940903333905'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/09/orentlicher-plan-more-of-same-approach.html?showComment=1189465980000#c5032944940903333905' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/09/orentlicher-plan-more-of-same-approach.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-4325790439781127533' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/4325790439781127533' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1114923450"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="6:13 PM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-2936813795616805492</id><published>2007-09-10T14:53:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-09-10T14:53:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Dr. Styring&#39;s conclusions ignore one basic ecnomic...</title><content type='html'>Dr. Styring&#39;s conclusions ignore one basic ecnomic fact, that neocons refuse to admit: this ecnomy, and over time it happens often, is in recession.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Often, during such times, sales taxes wane.  Big ticket items sell less often, herego, the state budget, if it depended more heavily on sales taxes, could be caught unprepared.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And make no mistake about it, without the $12 bil a month war expenditures, this economy would be in full-blown recession.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Another fact that&#39;s hard to avoid: if our sales taxes exceed thos eof neighboring states by much, big-ticket items, even in good times, will be bought in neighboring states for the 2 million Hoosiers within 35 minutes of a border.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;There are ways to capture the appropriate state&#39;s sales tax, if all states agree to do so...but it&#39;s a sticky wicket.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Dr. Styring has been an economist for hire for quite some time.  His past works include a few that had faulty conclusions.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Frankly, it&#39;s a problem with many economists of all political stripes.  They&#39;re part-time politicians of a sort.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/4325790439781127533/comments/default/2936813795616805492'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/4325790439781127533/comments/default/2936813795616805492'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/09/orentlicher-plan-more-of-same-approach.html?showComment=1189453980000#c2936813795616805492' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/09/orentlicher-plan-more-of-same-approach.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-4325790439781127533' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/4325790439781127533' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1114923450"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="2:53 PM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-511639027155029766</id><published>2007-09-10T11:44:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-09-10T11:44:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The word &quot;economist&quot; is not what gives him credibi...</title><content type='html'>The word &quot;economist&quot; is not what gives him credibility, but rather his accomplishments that do.  Just like the word &quot;politician&quot; carries no credibility.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I know about Sen. Lubbers.  I agree with you.   &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;However, no one that I&#39;ve seen presents a better more workable solution than Dr. Styring.  I don&#39;t see other governments bringing our politicians over to help them set up their currency and economic unions either.   &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As long as property tax exists, our property is in danger. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ideally, we need the Fair Tax on a federal level.  I have no doubt we will get there.  And I have no doubt we will get property tax repealed in Indiana.  It is what hoosiers want.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You mentioned you were not &quot;on board&quot;, but did not mention what you see as the problem with Dr. Styring&#39;s solution.  I promise you I&#39;ll get your concerns addressed.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/4325790439781127533/comments/default/511639027155029766'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/4325790439781127533/comments/default/511639027155029766'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/09/orentlicher-plan-more-of-same-approach.html?showComment=1189442640000#c511639027155029766' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/09/orentlicher-plan-more-of-same-approach.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-4325790439781127533' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/4325790439781127533' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1114923450"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="11:44 AM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-9064916059316998013</id><published>2007-09-10T11:35:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-09-10T11:35:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Well, Melyssa, I&#39;ve seen the video, and read much ...</title><content type='html'>Well, Melyssa, I&#39;ve seen the video, and read much of Dr. Styring&#39;s work over the last ten years.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Pardon me if I don&#39;t jump on board.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The word &quot;eocnomist&quot; in front of his name does not give him instant credibility.  Far from it.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I want a full repeal, but not at his pace or using all of his ideas.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You expect any legislator to adopt your philosophy on taxes, 100%, and introduce legislation? David introduced a bill.  It&#39;ll get debated and altered.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I suggest you take a short walk over and talk to Sen. Lubbers, who, frankly, has bene more a part of the problem on taxes and education than most folks realize.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Then get back to me.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/4325790439781127533/comments/default/9064916059316998013'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/4325790439781127533/comments/default/9064916059316998013'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/09/orentlicher-plan-more-of-same-approach.html?showComment=1189442100000#c9064916059316998013' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/09/orentlicher-plan-more-of-same-approach.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-4325790439781127533' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/4325790439781127533' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1114923450"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="11:35 AM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-2324491843323445165</id><published>2007-09-10T10:42:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-09-10T10:42:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>In spite of the fact that many, many people talk t...</title><content type='html'>In spite of the fact that many, many people talk to David O. at the protests and tell him they want nothing but property tax REPEAL, he ignores their wishes.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Economist Dr. Bill Styring gives the answer and he says the only answer IS repeal and the total elimination of property tax. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Dr. Styring&#39;s video which outlines the only workable solution is available at:&lt;BR/&gt;www.HoosiersForFairTaxation.com</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/4325790439781127533/comments/default/2324491843323445165'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/4325790439781127533/comments/default/2324491843323445165'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/09/orentlicher-plan-more-of-same-approach.html?showComment=1189438920000#c2324491843323445165' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/09/orentlicher-plan-more-of-same-approach.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-4325790439781127533' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/4325790439781127533' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1114923450"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="10:42 AM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-2775004897198417521</id><published>2007-09-10T07:45:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-09-10T07:45:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I give David credit for trying.But history, specif...</title><content type='html'>I give David credit for trying.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But history, specifically Gov. Bowen&#39;s stupid plan in 1973, should&#39;ve been a better teacher.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;We need a permnent fix.  I&#39;m waiting on the Kernan-Shepherd Commission&#39;s findings.  And hoping.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/4325790439781127533/comments/default/2775004897198417521'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/4325790439781127533/comments/default/2775004897198417521'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/09/orentlicher-plan-more-of-same-approach.html?showComment=1189428300000#c2775004897198417521' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/09/orentlicher-plan-more-of-same-approach.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-4325790439781127533' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/4325790439781127533' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1114923450"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="7:45 AM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-581829442908983265</id><published>2007-09-10T07:12:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-09-10T07:12:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Orentlicher was on TV when this mess came about.  ...</title><content type='html'>Orentlicher was on TV when this mess came about.  At that time he said he was for limits.  What happened?  We need hard limits on property taxes.  % caps with assessed value do not work, values can just go up.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/4325790439781127533/comments/default/581829442908983265'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/4325790439781127533/comments/default/581829442908983265'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/09/orentlicher-plan-more-of-same-approach.html?showComment=1189426320000#c581829442908983265' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/09/orentlicher-plan-more-of-same-approach.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-4325790439781127533' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/4325790439781127533' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1114923450"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="7:12 AM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-8046703239210110449</id><published>2007-09-10T06:49:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-09-10T06:49:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I agree.With this plan, not only would they get a ...</title><content type='html'>I agree.&lt;BR/&gt;With this plan, not only would they get a higher income tax increase, then also in the future they can raise property taxes again. &lt;BR/&gt;Just more of the same stupid ideas.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/4325790439781127533/comments/default/8046703239210110449'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/4325790439781127533/comments/default/8046703239210110449'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/09/orentlicher-plan-more-of-same-approach.html?showComment=1189424940000#c8046703239210110449' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2007/09/orentlicher-plan-more-of-same-approach.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-4325790439781127533' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/4325790439781127533' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1114923450"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="6:49 AM GMT-5"/></entry></feed>