Comments on Advance Indiana™: Bart's Flip-Flop On Taxes

Everyone needs to just shut-up about taxes. Taxin...

2007-07-01T08:22:00.000-05:00

Everyone needs to just shut-up about taxes. Taxing people out of their homes and their current lifestyle is needed to bring about the eventual collapse of government. Then we can start over, with the same Constitution, only adding one more thing: Term limits for every single elected office in this country.

Lets take bets on how many foreclosures there will be in the coming year. If people start cutting back on eating out, how many small businesses go under? Maybe we can increase line-of-credit limits so people can pay their tax bills with their VISA and MasterCards? If people do stop eating out, will multi-millionaire Irsay step-up and pay for the remaining costs to finish the stadium?

Is it my imagination, or is Wilson, in his own ver...

2007-07-01T06:17:00.000-05:00

Is it my imagination, or is Wilson, in his own verbose way, actually arguing for less government? Ergo, elimination of the wasteful township system?

The constitutional basis for multiple levels of government does not exist, except, to assign certain rights and responsibilities to the states.

Maybe the cocktails had sunk in by 6:18.

And: Six Sigma is a nice theory, and allows for something like 3 "errors" per one million opportunities for error. A fantastic goal, in theory.

But for government, nearly impossible. Because, dear friend, there are so many layers of government here in Indiana, that would mean several layers would have to be error-free.

And we have one example of pro-business principles being implemented too often in government. Wasted opportunities, overpromised lies, meet Mitch Daniels.

To Wilson, the Voice for spend and tax democraps. ...

2007-07-01T03:10:00.000-05:00

To Wilson, the Voice for spend and tax democraps. Reality check. You need your own blog. You are like an alcoholic stumbling around in dark places in denial that you have a problem.

In this case, the elected Democraps in Marion County have no idea how to fix the financial problems of this city. It is easier to blame UniGov and past administrations, rather than to accept responsibility for the poor management of resources for the past 7.5 years. Do they have a plan that makes sense? If so, put it out here before November.

The democrat majority city-county council needs to do its job once and for all or be defeated in the fall.
It doesn't seem to matter to them that they have damaged lives. They have ruined lives.

Do the Democrats really have a plan or not to prov...

2007-07-01T02:32:00.000-05:00

Do the Democrats really have a plan or not to provide services
while reducing taxes at the same time?

The voters have a right to know before November.

Mayor Peterson and his Ghetto Mafia Team are cutti...

2007-07-01T02:18:00.000-05:00

Mayor Peterson and his Ghetto Mafia Team are cutting deals left and right. They are getting richer while the average citizen is getting poorer. Check it out. Who are the people in his inner circle wheeling and dealing? Get while the getting is good before the voters wakeup and find they have all been bambuzzled by the Democraps. Say it isn't so!

Why doesn't the city government employ "Six Sigma"...

2007-07-01T02:17:00.000-05:00

Why doesn't the city government employ "Six Sigma" to improve the efficiency of our tax dollar. This program has been rippling through private industry for the last 8 years. The results are impressive.

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2007-06-30T23:15:00.000-05:00

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7:10pm,One of those other blue ribbon panels the M...

2007-06-30T20:11:00.000-05:00

7:10pm,
One of those other blue ribbon panels the Mayor put together and announced with much fanfare was his Abandoned Homes Initiative.
They met once in 2003 and have essentially done nothing since.
And as the years passed by and more people moved out of the city's central core the problem is now far worse.
Not much can be done however, the budget at the Marion County Health department has been cut severely and so has staff.
Bottom line, the Mayor makes grand announcements on these so-called quality of life issues and then does nothing. The exeption of course, are issue relating to downtown development and quality of life in the Mile Square.

Its much easier for Mayor Peterson to lie and misl...

2007-06-30T20:03:00.000-05:00

Its much easier for Mayor Peterson to lie and mislead than it is to actually govern.
At least he's good at one thing.

"BART LIES!"
Coming soon to a lawn and car bumper close to you.

Sir Failstone - why not go back to using your old ...

2007-06-30T19:23:00.000-05:00

Sir Failstone - why not go back to using your old moniker? Your writing style is so obvious - why hide your light under a bushel basket?

"TAX & SPEND"...the motto of the Democraps & the m...

2007-06-30T19:20:00.000-05:00

"TAX & SPEND"...the motto of the Democraps & the motto of Bart P.

As "The Rich" get richer (ie: Colts, Irsay, Simons, Pacers, select billionaires) we get TAXED to pay for it! Why are taxpayers paying for the Colts, Simons, Pacers, or billionaires' interest? -Because Democraps are scratching their backs!

So Mr. Wilson - how many other GRAND Schemes, coun...

2007-06-30T19:10:00.000-05:00

So Mr. Wilson - how many other GRAND Schemes, councils, ideas, projects has the mayor "procilmated" but never got around to actually have them doing what they were supposed to do ?

I did a site search at Indygov.com and I could not find anything happening after he wrote his executive order. Am I missing anything ?

Very good question! Who was actually appointed to ...

2007-06-30T18:50:00.000-05:00

Very good question! Who was actually appointed to this "Council"? When did they ever meet? Notice that the exercise was to coordinate and share information amongst the taxing units but no actual power exists to force it on them.

In the real world, the bureaucrats developing budgets for each of the separate and independent taxing units are fairly busy with internal costs and political realities without also trying to effect some "grand consolidated and coordinated" effort with other entities. The bureaucrats present their efforts to the actual boards that have the power to vote for levies. Imagine coordinating all those separate boards with all the variety of agendas involved! Messy.

Mr. Wilson,Read the mayors decree from 2003.http:/...

2007-06-30T18:30:00.000-05:00

Mr. Wilson,

Read the mayors decree from 2003.

http://www.indygov.org/eGov/Mayor/Executive/2003_2.htm

Some interesting sections.

WHEREAS, many taxpayers in Indianapolis and Marion County have seen increases in their tax bills for property taxes due and payable in 2003; and

WHEREAS, the State Legislative Services Agency has determined that the general reassessment alone caused the tax bills of at least 24,000 homes to increase by 100% or more; and

WHEREAS, the Taxing Units should assemble to discuss their planned spending and its likely cumulative impact on taxpayers, to facilitate conscious, integrated financial planning and provide for more tax accountability;

NOW, THEREFORE, by virtue of the authority vested in me as Mayor of the City of Indianapolis, Indiana, and as successor-in-interest to the Board of Commissioners of Marion County, Indiana, it is hereby ordered as follows:

The Council shall have two (2) principal powers and responsibilities.

1. Each year during the time when Taxing Units are in the process of formulating their budgets, tax rates and levies, the Council shall compile a report that includes the information on all the Taxing Units' budgets, tax rates and levies, and that shows their cumulative effect.

The mayor seemed to think he has some sort of control or influence as by the last part of the order

# This Executive Order is issued with the expectation that in the course of the Council's operation, the discussions among the Taxing Units' representatives will result in the sharing of information about important budget and revenue issues – e.g., capital improvements, operational increases, and revenue shortfalls – and that the Taxing Units will better be able to coordinate any necessary tax increases.
# The Council shall also have such other powers and responsibilities with respect to the Taxing Units' budgets, tax rates and levies as the Mayor may from time to time direct.

Now where are the reports for the last 4 years ?

The U.S. Constitutional system is set up as divide...

2007-06-30T18:18:00.000-05:00

The U.S. Constitutional system is set up as divided and separate governments. It may be inefficient but it prevents "the government" from becoming too powerful over citizens lives. In other words, there are lots of different governments and Bart Peterson is the executive of just one.

Actual control of taxes is through the City-County Council, not the Mayor. Of the property tax bill you receive, the City-Council controls way less than half of that. School boards set their own budgets and account for about half of your property taxes.

Peterson has no say whatsoever about Township budgets. None. Yet they have taxing authority. In Center, that's 01.47% of your property tax bill.

Still, it all adds up. The point is that you are actually paying a number of separate, distinct taxes to a variety of independent government entities only one of which has Peterson as its executive officer. Taxing power is widely diffused to a number of separate and independent elected officials.