Comments on Advance Indiana™: Marion County GOP's Property Tax Plan

samxllrtmgkxEliminate property tax totally. Solut...

2007-07-26T17:06:00.000-05:00

samxllrtmgkxEliminate property tax totally. Solution: raise sales tax 2%, raise gas tax 1%, outsource road and waste management, fire assessors and tax related personnel. Reduces lots of political pressure.

Thanks for all the update, and you're right...the ...

2007-07-19T06:57:00.000-05:00

Thanks for all the update, and you're right...the Star has done an excellent job. You have, too.

Although Rep. Elrod may have Bosma's ear more than we think, do you really believe, for a second, that BB would hesitate to throw us (and Jon) under the bus on the SJR7 issue?

He'd do it without batting an eyelash.

As much as you may think Elrod has Bosma's ear...Reps. Turner/Burton et al are much more powerful, and I'm guessing they speak with Bosma much more than Jon. Jon is a brand-new freshman, who will have a tough time holding onto his seat by sheer numbers, while Turner and his crowd are vets. And you know how that legislature works...

And, again...the voices who are saying this are prominent, Indy-inner-circle GOP types. Think lobbyists, lawyers, players...they don't want the SJR7 issue coming up again because they correctly realize it's a dead-end wedge issue: short-term gain, perhaps, but long-term grief. But it plays in the hinterlands.

My fingers are crossed on this one. I'm not sure Bosma can withstand the pressure, though.

Let's eliminate Center Township Government!Sell th...

2007-07-18T22:52:00.000-05:00

Let's eliminate Center Township Government!

Sell those buildings and get that horrific name off of the building on Fall Creek Pwy.

Eliminating Center Twp Government, well, you might say you're eliminating corrupt political patronage.

Thanks, Gary, for digging for the truth. Shows re...

2007-07-18T22:51:00.000-05:00

Thanks, Gary, for digging for the truth. Shows really strong character for you to defend the person you despise, just because what people are saying is obviously untrue, and just plain dumb. It's perhaps even more than that -- my information is that the Dems are using this rumor to block the Gov from calling a special session. It's not nice to use the community's fears for partisan gain, but here we go again.

I think Elrod has Bosma's ear a little more than y...

2007-07-18T22:38:00.000-05:00

I think Elrod has Bosma's ear a little more than you might assume, anon 10:36.

Elrod isn't exactly tight with the in-crowd, thoug...

2007-07-18T22:36:00.001-05:00

Elrod isn't exactly tight with the in-crowd, though. If that were true, do you really think he would be in the know? There would be enough House votes to pass it with D crossover, as long as it got out of committee.

"GaryJ: I have never ever posted anything on IndyU...

2007-07-18T22:36:00.000-05:00

"GaryJ: I have never ever posted anything on IndyU: NEVER! I rarely visit there"

BART'S not the only LIAR!

Anon 9:19, I don't doubt there are people in his c...

2007-07-18T21:27:00.000-05:00

Anon 9:19, I don't doubt there are people in his caucus making this demand, and I don't doubt they are being egged on by Micah Clark and Eric Miller. But until Bosma himself makes a demand on behalf of his caucus, it hasn't happened. And Elrod said Bosma has not made that demand.

Gary, I've heard from a highly-placed GOP politico...

2007-07-18T21:19:00.000-05:00

Gary, I've heard from a highly-placed GOP politico who says Bosma is being pushed very, very hard by many in his caucus to put SJR7 issue back on the table, if not in a special, then definitely next year. And, to trade almost anything, including tax reform, to get it back on the front burner.

That's how desparate these clowns are.

So the rumor is alive and well, and coming from some very concerned Republicans, who think they're barking up the wrong tree. You would know the names of the people who are gossiping about this. Very credible sources.

But always remember: Bosma is a creation of his caucus, which is increasingly right-wing and shrill. He is in love with being leader, and he'll do almost anything to keep the title.

Anything. Including making verbal love to Eric Miller.

It's no accident that Miller is pushing property taxes to his minions now...he's raising big bucks doing so, too. The money and PR he gets on taxes, can transfer easily to SJR7.

They're not defeated: they're just reloading, and with viciousness.

It's not always amusing to watch Republicans eat their young. Bosma may be forced to throw some red meat to his wingnuts to stay in his precious job.

And the post about what these Republicans call it, caucus, group, whatever--it's just silly. What difference does it make?

Stepping out of the petty bickering and addressing...

2007-07-18T21:08:00.000-05:00

Stepping out of the petty bickering and addressing the post if that's ok...

While I have a little less partisan take on it than Gary (and others), I just read the referenced posts and my skeptical nature kicked in. The rumor about holding tax relief hostage to the marriage amendment wasn't sourced by bilerico, and TDW only sourced it to Bil.

I would like to be wrong, and I'll be happy to be proved so. I think if the Republicans pulled such a stunt it could be used to our advantage (meaning those of us who are actively fighting the abhorrent SJR7).

But I have my doubts about this particular rumor.

So, let me get this straight: The Marion County GO...

2007-07-18T20:03:00.000-05:00

So, let me get this straight: The Marion County GOP announces their big property tax plan and it says... drum roll please, EVERYTHING THE GOV SAID. Well done gentlemen. Congratulations on taking over a week to think up a great plan, that consists of no original ideas. I agree with most posters on here, the GOP could definately turn this county around. It's just the kind of new thinking we need. (sarcasm)

GaryJ: I have never ever posted anything on IndyU:...

2007-07-18T19:59:00.000-05:00

GaryJ: I have never ever posted anything on IndyU: NEVER! I rarely visit there - the level of sheer racism, homophobia, paranoia, misinformation and general freeperism is quite off-putting. I disagree with Abdul and Gary frequently but at least those two are halfway sane and sensible...

"...unveiled the Marion Co. GOP's property tax pla...

2007-07-18T19:52:00.000-05:00

"...unveiled the Marion Co. GOP's property tax plan today. “Our caucus recognizes..."

That's confusing. The GOP has a caucus within the State Legislature and the GOP has a caucus within the City-County Council. The Marion County Republican Party is a political party, not a mere "caucus". I realize both Elrod and Vaughn are political "newbies" but as lawyers, you'd expect them to get the basic political terminology correct when they are speaking officially for a political party in a major American city! Such slipshod use of caucus to describe themselves shows a weak organizational level.

Wilson, Why is it when someone posts anonymously o...

2007-07-18T19:45:00.000-05:00

Wilson,
Why is it when someone posts anonymously or under a pseudonym, you have to call them names? Granted, calling you a "dumpster-diver" wasn't right either, but you shold be the bigger person and ignore them, not fall into their trap. Look at all the times you posted at Indyundercover anonymously. Did anyone pick on you there?
Stick with the topic and leave the "trolls" alone.

This SJR-7 issue is NOT the flavor of the day, pro...

2007-07-18T19:36:00.001-05:00

This SJR-7 issue is NOT the flavor of the day, property tax reform is!
I for one DO NOT want this damn issue even brought up again at the State House!
The rumor is pure bullshit!
I'm voting my pocket book NOT my fricking Bible and there are lot more of people like me than them.
The stupid fight over SJR-7 wasted valuable time that could have been devoted to solvong this tax delimma.
To the bigots on both sides of this issue I say back off.

Of course, "ramrod" is another cowardly pseudonym ...

2007-07-18T19:36:00.000-05:00

Of course, "ramrod" is another cowardly pseudonym for another rightwing political loser who seems fascinated by gay bars and boozing. I'm not. I haven't been in Gregs (as O.P.s now called) for at least 3 years and that was for a Democratic fundraiser...

Wilson, the guy from the Council meeting is puttin...

2007-07-18T19:30:00.000-05:00

Wilson, the guy from the Council meeting is putting out his trash tonight. Shouldn't you be busy with that instead of posting on here?

Wilson, the term may be "operative" but it's just ...

2007-07-18T19:23:00.000-05:00

Wilson, the term may be "operative" but it's just a fancy word for "dumpster diver".
Why don't you go down to O.P.s and spend the rest of your retirement years enjoying the "fine things" they have to offer.
Let the people who have something to contribute to society do their jobs.

I'm the "democratic operative" and the lady involv...

2007-07-18T19:17:00.000-05:00

I'm the "democratic operative" and the lady involved lives in the classy Golden Hill enclave down in Center Township, not up in Meridian-Kessler ...