Comments on Advance Indiana™: Poll Shows Tight Race Between Carson And Elrod

This election will be a tough one for the Gay comm...

2008-01-14T08:53:00.000-05:00

This election will be a tough one for the Gay community to pick a candidate.

Although Jon Elrod has stated that he supports the Gay community, and even had a booth at the Indy Gay Pride event, he hasn't shown that he is willing to take a stand publicly or even vote against the Republicans on anything.

Andre does support the Gay community, and you know that he will have no problem taking a stand for Gay Rights.

If Jon Elrod wants to get any crossover support from Democrats in the Gay community, he had better come out publicly and announce his support for Gay Rights.

Elrod tells Advance Indiana that he supports Gay Rights, but I've heard that he's telling the Religious Right that he supports their values, too.

Politics as usual (telling both side what they want to hear) is NOT going to work for any candidate in this new digital media age.

When Elrod gives the Indy Star a quote saying that he supports Gay Rights, including things like Gay marriage, then I will really believe that he supports Gay Rights and is not just playing politics!

10:21 It's always complicated. Do I think it would...

2008-01-13T23:52:00.000-05:00

10:21 It's always complicated. Do I think it would be "easy as?" No. If it was easy, everyone would be doing it. But it can be done. How many folks didn't show up? The result could have been much different, had those 160 folks showed up... and felt like you.

I am involved Marti and I have been for quite some...

2008-01-13T21:27:00.000-05:00

I am involved Marti and I have been for quite some time. Much, much more complicated as this is all unfolding.

You were there yesterday, you saw it all and you still think that just getting involved is going to fix the problem?

Since Elrod is in, I will be crossing party lines for this election.

Holy cow, I almost posted (jokingly!) yesterday "d...

2008-01-13T21:19:00.000-05:00

Holy cow, I almost posted (jokingly!) yesterday "does this mean Patrice gets 'his' Council seat back?"

291 votes out of the entire 7th district...those w...

2008-01-13T20:54:00.000-05:00

291 votes out of the entire 7th district...those whiners who complained that the Dems only had 440 must be getting pretty silent right now. Since the special election is March 11 which is after the filing deadline for state representative, does this mean that he cannot run for state rep at the same time.

GOP Slating Vote Count:Elrod - 186Rose - 79Campo -...

2008-01-13T20:38:00.000-05:00

GOP Slating Vote Count:

Elrod - 186

Rose - 79

Campo - 26

9:36 But do they want to? Do they want to embolden...

2008-01-13T20:29:00.000-05:00

9:36 But do they want to? Do they want to embolden the Democrats to come out in mass to vote for Andre or David, and end up carrying Metro Indy for Mitch's challenger?

10:21 Then get involved in the process and make it happen! Carson's nod happened because he has supporters in the process. Get involved and change the dynamic.

1:27 agreed. I've moved, he wouldn't represent me anymore, but I definitely would work for any Dem that would challenge him, if he ran.

Yo GaRee, hope you're at the R caucus and hope Elr...

2008-01-13T19:58:00.000-05:00

Yo GaRee, hope you're at the R caucus and hope Elrod is winning for u since the Colts freaking lost today.

If Elrod get the nom, will you include your thoughts as to what this might mean for the county party (PC's/People vs. Powers that Be; some recognition/hope that R's can still win here with the right (as in not hard-right) candidate for the county/district?)

Just to clarify- Lacy and John's office are not ne...

2008-01-13T19:19:00.000-05:00

Just to clarify- Lacy and John's office are not next door to each other. So that part of your argument falls apart too. Sorry.

In response stating that Andre was not at some of ...

2008-01-13T18:47:00.000-05:00

In response stating that Andre was not at some of the "events", but he was with his grandmother learning how to cast votes, how to talk to other congresspersons. He was learning the meat and potatoes of Washington D.C. not just sitting on the sidelines.

I vividly recall the night Andy Jacob's father los...

2008-01-13T17:42:00.000-05:00

I vividly recall the night Andy Jacob's father lost the Marion County Prosecutor's race to Steve Goldsmith.
This was of course back in the days when the 7th District was the 10th and the 10th was held by Andy Jacobs who in turn handed the District over to Julia Carson.
Politics does indeed make strange bedfellows.
It has been speculated on other various blogs that the current 10th District is simply a concession to the entrenched black power structure.
Seems to me that there is a lot of money riding on who controls the 7th District Congressperson.
I won't get into organized crime unless someone feels highjacking minority contracts is organized?

The kitchen getting hot Gary?

2008-01-13T17:29:00.000-05:00

The kitchen getting hot Gary?

2008-01-13T16:57:00.000-05:00

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4:40 Sorry to tell you this but she has a seat at ...

2008-01-13T16:52:00.000-05:00

4:40 Sorry to tell you this but she has a seat at the Ballard table too.
And, don't look for the numbers racket to stop any time soon.
In case you didn't notice, another Carson is going to be protecting the same racketeers.

2008-01-13T16:40:00.000-05:00

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André Carson's victory at the Caucus: WHO CARES??...

2008-01-13T16:08:00.000-05:00

André Carson's victory at the Caucus:

WHO CARES???????

Anyone who spent just a small time around Andre wi...

2008-01-13T13:27:00.000-05:00

Anyone who spent just a small time around Andre will quickly realize that he is informed about the issues and right on the issues as well as having an excellent ability to communicate those views and listen to the views of the person who is talking to him.

The scariest thing I have heard is that Patrice Abdullah is actively campaigning to get his council seat back if Andre is elected. NO WAY IN HELL. Abdullah is a loser, a cheat and a liar and he will NEVER get that council seat back.

Have no fear, 11:03- Andre's campaign staff are yo...

2008-01-13T12:43:00.000-05:00

Have no fear, 11:03- Andre's campaign staff are young, energetic and have tons of experience.

As a lifelong activist Democrat,10:21's post truly...

2008-01-13T11:02:00.000-05:00

As a lifelong activist Democrat,10:21's post truly concerns me. It was predictable--the Center Township gang just doesn't get it.

I can only hope Andre can campaign half decently. Of course, we have no idea if he can, because he has no experience.

And before anyone gives out that tired "he was at his grandma's side" line---I was at a lot of the early-on Julia events. Never saw the kid.

And even if he were there, he has no direct ballot experience except his November win.

Let's hope for my party's sake he's a fast learner.

I agree with 9:36 am. I do believe that "the machi...

2008-01-13T10:21:00.000-05:00

I agree with 9:36 am. I do believe that "the machine" may well have lost the 7th for the democrats.

Before you start in.....I voted for Julia every single time but to put Andre in that seat over talent like David O or Sanders was ridiculous.

It is time to make our party better than this. These fools don't understand what happened in the last election and I doubt that they remotely understand what they have done in this election.

If Elrod gets the nomination, I will likely be voting for him but I would rather be voting for a Dem that truly deserves the seat.

No matter about all this bickering -- if Republica...

2008-01-13T09:36:00.000-05:00

No matter about all this bickering -- if Republicans want to win the special election, they'll nominate Rep. Elrod.

This solid downtown Democrat would vote for him in the special election because (A) he's a moderate, (B) I'm tired of the Johnson/Drummer/Gray crew, but more importantly (C) I want Rep. Orentlicher (or Joanne Sanderes) to be the candidate in November, and if Elrod wins in March, that'll knock Andre out of the race in May!

Carolene Mays belongs with the republicans.....sh...

2008-01-13T08:56:00.000-05:00

Carolene Mays belongs with the republicans.....she votes with Mitch Daniels and the republicans frequently she had 60to 90 of her committeepersons there and only got 26 votes.....MESSAGE, get it Carolene.

André Carson's victory at the Caucus: http://youtu...

2008-01-13T07:22:00.000-05:00

André Carson's victory at the Caucus: http://youtube.com/watch?v=0jFfqox1KGE

I got this "poll" from Carolene in the mail. I ca...

2008-01-13T06:18:00.000-05:00

I got this "poll" from Carolene in the mail. I can only suppose she was using it to sway committeemen to her cause in the caucus.

It demonstrates a few things:

1. She has money. This is a respectd firm.

2. Even respected firms can out-think themselves. Very sloppy question construction and sloppier execution of the poll.

3. Nobody knows Andre yet. That will change.

4. Carolene is not worthy of her state job, let alone a federal one, if she has no more sense than to distribute this kind of information.

Carolene only got a couple dozen votes in the caucus. How she ever thought she'd win, is beyond me. Multiple committeemen told me at the caucus that she was an embarrassment to the party. And she is.

Carolene, honey...your weak-principled support for SJR7, and your weak record on multiple issues, is a sad legacy indeed. You belong with the rest of your fellow Democrats, not Eric Miller.

Repent or get lost. (Who WERE all those Mays t-shirt folks yesterday? Don't you feel pretty silly, spending all that money and getting only a few votes? You sure as hell should)

Yes, Scott Keller...or any other moderate to liber...

2008-01-13T03:06:00.000-05:00

Yes, Scott Keller...or any other moderate to liberal Republican. A conservative won't win the 7th for at least 10-20 years...at least.

"Marti's another Generation Me twenty something"

Hardly. :) I'm probably older than you are.

Penn PHD, nice little dig. Too bad it has no basis in fact. I can prove my point with one word...

DICKERSON.

Anon 10:07. Contact me off blog, and I can send you the info in a PDF. Be forewarned...it didn't really move me...it seemed kinda pathetic.