Comments on Advance Indiana™: Indiana Passes RFRA, Sky Is Falling

As an at will employer anyone refusing service to ...

2015-03-27T10:16:28.120-05:00

As an at will employer anyone refusing service to my customers will be out the door and can live with their new job reference.

I was always told that pride is a sin. Isn't i...

2015-03-26T19:48:59.929-05:00

I was always told that pride is a sin. Isn't it ironic how "gay pride" is a slogan for homosexuals? I could give a hoot about anyone's sex life, preference, whatever. I wish people would be more classy and not discuss their sexuality like everyone wants to hear about it. Why do the rights of the few have to weigh so much against the rights of so many? The media "blows" all this way out of proportion. (pardon the pun)

You all do realize that the RFRA was introduced by...

2015-03-25T21:21:23.875-05:00

You all do realize that the RFRA was introduced by Chuck Schumer, supported by the ACLU, passed the house unanimously in 1993 and the Senate 97-3. Signed by Clinton.

Reason for the RFRA was in part to protect Native American ceremonial rights (including the right to use peyote and hold ceremonies on gov't land).

Anon: 752: Don't go into business if you so pr...

2015-03-25T16:55:06.405-05:00

Anon: 752: Don't go into business if you so proscribe bigotry to some.

Anon @ 2:16... Get over it you damn baby. In the b...

2015-03-25T16:49:43.420-05:00

Anon @ 2:16...
Get over it you damn baby. In the big scheme of things, this legislation is completely inconsequential.

If this "cuts you f'ing nuts off" in relation to your life's work, it must have been pretty mediocre to begin with.

Stop with the histrionics already.

Poeple are upset because it's an active vote f...

2015-03-25T14:16:02.949-05:00

Poeple are upset because it's an active vote for bigotry. Don't pretend it's anything else, or that people are overreacting. Whatever effects fall out of this, it's nothing more than spite and ugliness.

I've worked my entire career trying to convince technology companies to invest here, and I just had my fucking nuts cut off by this.

If Pence signs this I probably lose my staff increase, and with good reason. Who the fuck would move or invest someplace that values bigotry so clearly?

13 "Gay" Bakeries Deny Christian's R...

2015-03-25T14:05:28.189-05:00

13 "Gay" Bakeries Deny Christian's Request for Pro-Traditional Marriage Cake
Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/12/christian-man-asks-thirteen-gay-bakeries-bake-pro-traditional-marriage-cake-denied-service/#9f7ug84t6PFS4iD8.99

Cough

Anon@9:42 said "Stay out our lives and homes ...

2015-03-25T07:59:26.069-05:00

Anon@9:42 said "Stay out our lives and homes and businesses with your beliefs.

I don't get it. Should a man who happens to prefer sex w/ men stay out of the lives of a florist w/ religious convictions proscribing such behavior, who declines to do flowers for a gay "marriage? Or should the florist be forced to "get in" the lives of someone they would otherwise decide not to?

To me, it is pretty clear who is attempting to force their beliefs on whom.

I'm interested in a few aspects of this: 1. I ...

2015-03-25T07:44:11.472-05:00

I'm interested in a few aspects of this:
1. I notice that IN RFRA's defenders never bring up the recent Hobby Lobby decision, which stated that a corporation can tailor the compensation it pays its employees (health insurance) to suit the corporation's owner's religious preferences (no birth control). Why do they never mention this controversial decision, which was directly based on the federal RFRA? Is it that they are trying to hide something about the state decision? Is it something else?

2. I also notice that this appears to be aimed at the owners of businesses. Perhaps I'm wrong about this, but it seems that this bill grants extra religious freedoms only to the "bosses" and not to the rank and file. Say you own a restaurant and prefer not to serve gay couples for religious reasons, does this bill give you the right to refuse service? Similarly, say you work in a restaurant and prefer not to serve couples for religious reasons, does this bill give YOU the right to refuse such service? Does it also give you the right to keep your job?

My point of bringing this up is it seems to be one of about a million examples of the IN state legislature giving preferential treatment to enterprise owners while not for one moment considering the worker bees within such enterprise.

Gannett's ruined Indianapolis Star's warni...

2015-03-25T07:20:39.873-05:00

Gannett's ruined Indianapolis Star's warnings on the supposed fall-out of RFRA passage are meaningless to anyone who can actually think.

I was never in favor of the foolish moves by the critically out of touch and ethics-challenged (ethics-bankrupt?) Brian Bosma on his anti-gay stances in the Legislature... pure folly and a waste of the time taxpayers pay him... but opponents of RFRA and especially the Freedom Indiana gaggle have been less than honest and less than honorable with their allegations that seem to promote the idea human life and economic activity as we know it will cease with the RFRA passage.

As an out gay male, I observe much of the contrived angst and the sometimes hysterical reaction thereto with a George Orwell statement in mind... "The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it".

Thank you, Gary, for always having the courage to speak the truth.

Look at it this way,if conventions diminish becaus...

2015-03-25T05:39:28.416-05:00

Look at it this way,if conventions diminish because of this law, the PTB will draft/pass legislation giving DT business affected taxpayer dollars to cover their losses.

Interesting to see teenagers posting their outrage...

2015-03-24T21:42:12.735-05:00

Interesting to see teenagers posting their outrage against this. There's a generation in IN with a broader sense of open mindness and more in this state. They are as upset about this as they are with their high school superintendants telling them and their families via emails directly to vote on referendums and taxing neighborhoods for schools and for contacting legislators and more to vote for spending efforts. And the GOP wants smaller Gov. Stay out our lives and homes and businesses with your beliefs.

If it will get the NFL to go milk some other group...

2015-03-24T20:17:26.002-05:00

If it will get the NFL to go milk some other groups of hapless taxpayers by taking their "super bowl" somewhere else, I suppose that would be a happy unintended consequence.

I've not seen an analysis of how the other sta...

2015-03-24T18:23:30.208-05:00

I've not seen an analysis of how the other state RFRA statutes might differ from Indiana's. I see that "person" is defined to include corporations, which would seem to be much broader than I think the original federal statute defined the term.