tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post6359562371058653164..comments2020-04-11T03:30:02.282-05:00Gary R. Welshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-23400050960124513632008-03-07T23:41:00.000-05:002008-03-07T23:41:00.000-05:00I just can't get over Andre Carson's comment that this is a "Democratic" seat. Sorry, Andre, but this seat belongs to all of the people of the 7th District. I usually vote Democrat, but not this time. I believe that John Elrod intends to serve all constituents, not just Republicans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-12756092222806808662008-03-07T18:25:00.000-05:002008-03-07T18:25:00.000-05:00The Star has improved. But, face it, the Star has always been a Republican newwspaper. However, their call on Jon Elrod over Andre<BR/>Carson is on target.<BR/>However, I don't think sacrificing<BR/>a afternoon beer at Hooters is worth seeing Andre Carson beat..<BR/><BR/><BR/>SargeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-70077029609729205532008-03-07T17:46:00.000-05:002008-03-07T17:46:00.000-05:00anon 4:53, Don't confuse me with Sir Hailstone. He is the one who refers to the Star as a "communist rag" and "Red Star." If you are a daily reader, you know that I often praise editorials as much as I criticize them. I similiarly praise news stories as well as criticize them. If I agreed with everything the newspaper wrote, or disagreed with everything the newspaper wrote, you would have a point. But you don't. So get over it.Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-51704921677395790582008-03-07T16:53:00.000-05:002008-03-07T16:53:00.000-05:00Isn't it amazing? You have for over a year talked about the poor judgement of the Star and even called it the communist rag and the Red Star........now all of a sudden you think they are wise because they endorse your candidate for congress....whose judgement is questionable here???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-50177133724306415702008-03-07T16:17:00.000-05:002008-03-07T16:17:00.000-05:00Tully really took that story of Carson accepting cash from an Hamas supporter and ran with it didn't he.<BR/>His column today was pathetic. If a candidate for Congress had dome what Carson did seven years ago they would have cuffed 'em and taken them to Gitmo.<BR/>I'm glad that the Indianapolis Star ran that big story on that Indiana National Guard unit that's deployed to Iraq while brushing a traitor's deed under the rug.<BR/>I guess Tully got religion confused with CAIR supported terrorists this election.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-21581088106979608572008-03-07T16:10:00.000-05:002008-03-07T16:10:00.000-05:00Tully is an idiot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-13307185015585795182008-03-07T15:03:00.000-05:002008-03-07T15:03:00.000-05:00Tully is a bright guy whose attitude or elitist impairment, severely affects his work product, a standard of news (comprehensive) compromised by views.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-12803119984799350082008-03-07T14:13:00.000-05:002008-03-07T14:13:00.000-05:00Abdul's too busy working on how to spin Andre's acceptance of terrorist-linked contributions, anon 1:06 as simply another attack on Muslims.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-91405943752979207372008-03-07T13:46:00.000-05:002008-03-07T13:46:00.000-05:00Carson made a critical mistake last night during the debates, that will cost him the primary amongst seniors as well as with African American voters. Jim Shella ask all three candidates if they were elected:"What committee would they like to serve...Carson's response:"Ways and Means, Transportation". Yet his entire campaign he has being talking about Medicare,Social Security, Funding for no Child left behind. If anyone know a little about how the Federal Budget is broken down. You will note that the programs I've mention falls under Health and Human Services. His entire campaign was and is to mislead the voters and that is exactly what his campaign has been doing since the Caucus. We will not let these factors get away during the primary debates, I sure hope he shows up, because he has allot of explaining to do. And his new blogger IPOPA is a front, I wouldn't be surprise that is that great dumpster diver. Wilson 46201.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-16424724163759816312008-03-07T13:06:00.000-05:002008-03-07T13:06:00.000-05:00No response from Abdul Hakim Shabaaz about the Star's Elrod endorsement in his blog.<BR/>Odd, very odd.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-84939827528824039362008-03-07T13:05:00.000-05:002008-03-07T13:05:00.000-05:00"Wilson emerges from hibernation to offer us.........Nothing."<BR/><BR/>Per usual.<BR/><BR/>But wait, Wilson, I thought Louis ordered you away from here. Tsk, tsk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-25807096766398684062008-03-07T11:56:00.000-05:002008-03-07T11:56:00.000-05:00Wilson emerges from hibernation to offer us.........Nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-32874333596555816642008-03-07T10:22:00.000-05:002008-03-07T10:22:00.000-05:00I'm a skeptic, a real hardcore skeptic, especially with regard to the Indianapolis Star.<BR/>I was involved in Indiana Democratic politics many years ago. I spent many an hour with Ed Ziegner. In those days an editorial endorsement from the local newspapers carried a lot of weight. That has waned in recent years but the Indianapolis Star's endorsement today of Jon Elrod struck me a sincere. After I read the endorsement I mulled over it and was skeptical from about every angle trying to find holes in it.<BR/>I couldn't find any holes in it so I sent out a couple of emails to see what was going on. What I found was just how much weight an Elrod endorsement from Indiana's senior Senator, Richard Lugar has.<BR/>Senator Lugar feels that Jon Elrod would not only make a good Congressman but he would best represent ALL people in the 7th District rather than just the self interests of a few.<BR/>It occurred to me that my own Democratic Party in Marion County has lost it's way. They no longer stand for what they used to. It's no longer a local party that welcomes participation and fair competition from all. Many like myself walked away from it years ago.<BR/>The Indianapolis Star picked the right candidate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-19626022683692742262008-03-07T10:17:00.000-05:002008-03-07T10:17:00.000-05:00News Update,<BR/><BR/>Wilson Allen has been found hiding deep down inside of his dumpster with the lid closed. At first we thought it was just another smelly dead body, but after a thorough investigation it was determined it was just Wilson.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-78164464290435010692008-03-07T09:27:00.000-05:002008-03-07T09:27:00.000-05:008:43, the hypocrisy of you whining about "standards of civil discourse" is astounding. You say you're a candidate, but you are trolling the blogs and calling your opponent a "semi-crooked black politician" under the cloak of anonymity. How can you claim that you have raised the standards of civil discourse?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-73890854401669643392008-03-07T09:07:00.000-05:002008-03-07T09:07:00.000-05:00You must be reading a different Star if this editorial surprised you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-58095618355787634672008-03-07T08:43:00.000-05:002008-03-07T08:43:00.000-05:00There are certain standards of civil discourse that people like "Wilson" have failed to learn.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps it is characteristic of the Indiana Democratic Party to act in an arrogant, self-serving manner when dealing with average citizens. Power gets entrenched, and authority brings money and influence. I think the Idiana Democratic Party needs a real "Spring-cleaning" to bring new life to the political process.<BR/><BR/>This is the sad tale of elitist snobs claiming to represent the common man and perhaps civil rights activists like Amos Brown becoming overtly ethno-centric and guilty of racial bigotry in the name of defending black power and position from being lost.<BR/><BR/>The Indianapolis Star has only focused on the facts at hand in their endorsement of Republican John Elrod. So many people have been stepped on by the whole manner and method used by the Democratic Party to select Andre' Carson as their hand-picked replacement for his Grandmother's unfinished term of office.<BR/><BR/>Furthermore, the Democratic Party has already picked Carson as the winner of the May 6th Democratic Party Primary Election and that is an insult to the voters in the 7th District as well as belittling to the seven other candidates in that election who would like a level playing field and a fair opportunity seek voter approval of their talent and capabilities.<BR/><BR/>True democracy is a process that requires a sense of "fair-play" and tolerence of the wide variety of types, backgrounds, experiences, and abilities represented in a multi-cultural society where each indidvidual is free to express their opinions, ideas, viewpoints, and positions on issues in competition with others in the free market of representative government.<BR/><BR/>Wouldn't it be boring if everyone was rubber-stamped, cloned, and straight-jacketed into a zoombie culture of hedonistic consumers of regurgitated pulp where shallow mental conditioning was the rule of law?<BR/><BR/>Perhaps the real problem, the deeper ailment, has to do with the infection of elitism that seems to permeate the organizational infrastructure of the Democratic Party these days.<BR/><BR/>Racist commentary is an ordinary feature of Amos Brown's radio show. When Amos refers to the "blue-eyed" ones there is no mistaking his racially motivated derogatory insinuation.<BR/><BR/>John Elrod was born with light-colored skin, but Barack Obama has a very white-toned Irish Mother, and is called,and calls himself, an African American.<BR/><BR/>I have no doubts that John Elrod could champion the cause of his darker-skinned constituents if he chose to do so, and probably do so more effectively than a pampered semi-crooked black politician who got elected on his Grandmother's name and record.<BR/><BR/>As a Democrat, I won't be pulling the handle for John Elrod because he isn't strongly opposed to the war in Iraq, and that is a priority issue with me. <BR/><BR/>I'll be sitting this one out and be preparing for the exciting May 6th Primary Election where I'm a candidate and don't intend to come in last.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-83760723977464496492008-03-07T08:38:00.000-05:002008-03-07T08:38:00.000-05:00The Star's endorsement of Elrod comes under the category of "Even A Blind Squirrel Can Find An Acorn Sometimes."<BR/><BR/>As for Tully, when did he ever do a column that involved more than sitting on his whiney ass and typing a few paragraphs? He never breaks a sweat. The landscape is littered with his feeble attempts at a relevant political column worthy of a state capitol newspaper. I've given up reading him. It's too frustrating.<BR/>And sometimes, frankly, he's just plain wrong on facts or history.<BR/><BR/>Joe Gelarden, Ed Ziegner, Ben Cole, et al, weep.<BR/><BR/>And that "Behind Closed Doors" Sunday column has become a sorry gossip heap.<BR/><BR/>As for Amos: he sees racial hatred and motivation in absolutely everything. There is absolutely racism in this city, and Amos is free to call it out. But, sometimes, Amos, it's just a simple oversight or not remotely related to racism.<BR/><BR/>Sure, a 7th Congressional campaign website should contain photos of all kinds of people. Failure to do so is not a capital offense, Amos...just an oversight. (How about the words, dude? The WORDS. Are you paying attention to the platforms, or just the pix?)<BR/><BR/>Amos's bleak and distorted yardstick, turned around, means that some Center politicos need to include more whites in their decision-making and public appearances, and stop accepting ANYthing said by an African American politician as gospel.<BR/>Oversights and silly mistakes are not race-specific--neither are they always hateful, Amos. <BR/><BR/>Just a thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-52081448188602479882008-03-07T08:12:00.000-05:002008-03-07T08:12:00.000-05:00despite my generally low regard for the editorial pages of the star, it's really hard to argue with any points made in this one. elrod is smarter and more prepared. furthermore, glad they hit the nail on the head regarding the dem primary field -- carson is a distant 4th in qualifications.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-24778363263961753512008-03-07T08:09:00.000-05:002008-03-07T08:09:00.000-05:00The Star endorsment is a sly trick. Dennis Ryerson has realized that the Star is an empty vessel that begs for derision from all sides.<BR/><BR/>So, if the Star "endorses" the opposite candidate from the one they prefer, they know that their silly readership will fall for the ploy, and correctly vote for André Carson instead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-38368229238153193292008-03-07T07:59:00.000-05:002008-03-07T07:59:00.000-05:00When the Star (for the first time ever) endorsed our Congresslady Julia Carson in 2004, she jokingly wondered what she was doing wrong - the Star had never endorsed her before!Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/14214029150233485312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-15981349298017561532008-03-07T07:58:00.000-05:002008-03-07T07:58:00.000-05:00Gary -<BR/><BR/>Now keep in mind what kind of track record The [BLEEP] has lately in its endorsements. That is when they actually bothered to interview everyone involved.Sir Hailstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16301073859882785758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-68724861469885813832008-03-07T07:47:00.000-05:002008-03-07T07:47:00.000-05:00Wilson, oh Wilson, care to comment?<BR/><BR/><BR/> Anyone but carsonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com