Comments on Advance Indiana™: Nuvo Hasn't Changed Its Plagiaristic Ways

I think sticking together and working together mig...

2010-10-16T01:50:17.845-05:00

I think sticking together and working together might be the better answer. As you can see, the citizens read various blogs, papers, etcetera. It's important to get the story out there and make the people aware of the political corruption and unethical business practices of ACS. Especially the corruption of the elected officials involved.
Both of you are right that The Star did not provide accurate information regarding this deal. That's why it's up to the two of you and the many other bloggers to stick together and tell the real story. I appreciate the hard work that everyone has put into exposing this deal, as I'm sure all the readers do too.

Oh my goodness.

2010-10-13T19:49:02.469-05:00

Oh my goodness.

For what its worth, Gary, Austin has never run dow...

2010-10-13T17:12:13.230-05:00

For what its worth, Gary, Austin has never run down blogging and seems to understand the importance. I can't say the same about Ryerson.

Boys, boys, boys, you must have better ways to spe...

2010-10-13T15:30:46.027-05:00

Boys, boys, boys, you must have better ways to spend your time. And in public, too!

Wouldn't it just be easier to have you write a...

2010-10-13T15:08:00.592-05:00

Wouldn't it just be easier to have you write a guest column? Their editors could review it for journalistic rigor and make appropriate changes, but you would be the author.

Is NUVO in the business of reporting news or ensuring certain people get credit?

Austin, Bloggers like myself devote countless hour...

2010-10-13T14:53:46.180-05:00

Austin, Bloggers like myself devote countless hours to our work without compensation. We are often chided by people in the mainstream media, particularly the Star's Dennis Ryerson. Yet we can track visits to our blogs daily through tracking software from all of the local news organizations. Reporters often acknowledge reading my blog daily and will source me in their stories; others just take the story ideas and run with it as their own.

Thanks for posting my response. But as a point o...

2010-10-13T14:35:17.570-05:00

Thanks for posting my response.

But as a point of fact, Ogden did, in fact, post the link. He didn't just cut and paste. It's at the bottom of this post:

http://www.ogdenonpolitics.com/2010/10/council-president-ryan-vaughn-lobbies.html

Going bankrupt, I think, still falls under the umbrella of "struggling," but I will agree wholeheartedly that the point bears underscoring. This is the way newspaper and blogs should work together -- filling in each others' gaps, rather than acting like crabs in a barrel.

-- Austin Considine, news editor, NUVO

Dear Gary: Yes, I came to you for help. I was loo...

2010-10-13T13:52:22.526-05:00

Dear Gary:

Yes, I came to you for help. I was looking for help on primary sources to vet some of your claims -- many of which one also finds on Ogden, on the IBJ, etc.

You just didn't bother to share them with me. You told me I could find what I needed online. Or that I should call Mike Huber, which, of course, I was doing and had done anyway (he's only the biggest character in this story).

Which is fine. It just
means I had to do all my own leg work to vet claims made on your blog,
on Ogden's blog, and at the IBJ.

I expect that -- it's my job. Just
don't expect me to source you. I didn't steal one single piece of
primary reporting from you. Not one.

And I didn't "constantly bug you for information on a story." I
emailed you a few times. Jesus Christ, is it pleasant swimming that
much vitriol?

The only reason I sourced Ogden was because he, to my knowledge, was
the first to publicly "discover" (by publishing) that link to IDOA.
Yes, he had to ask you for direction on that, personally, as he writes
in in blog. I'm sure he was grateful when you pointed him in the right direction.

So, when he went to the Web site, he "discovered" the link for himself
and for the reading public. I've never seen that link on your page. I sourced him because that's where I found
the link. I wasn't going to source you just because you said somewhere
that Vaughn lobbied for ACS. A second-hand source isn't good enough
for me. If you care about facts, you should appreciate that.

I tried getting to those primary sources by reaching out to you first.
You told me to go look on the internet.

Explain to me how any of this is plagiarism.

-- Austin Considine, news editor, NUVO