tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post6903815396232376783..comments2020-04-11T03:30:02.282-05:00Gary R. Welshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-836860108616476402007-08-31T17:54:00.000-05:002007-08-31T17:54:00.000-05:00I think that this is going to be a significant setback for gay rights - or same sex marriage, anyway - since: (1) I doubt the ruling will stand (it's a trial court ruling, not even an appellate court ruling); and (2) I think this will energize proponents of gay marriage banning amendments precisely at a time when they seem to be losing appeal.<BR/><BR/>It gives SJR 7 proponents a good response to the opponents' argument that we don't need the statute because same sex marriage is already illegal...they'll just point to Iowa.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-73967386049354365062007-08-31T07:34:00.000-05:002007-08-31T07:34:00.000-05:00Not gay here, but I cannot help but wonder what are the taxes like in Iowa? <BR/><BR/>Iowa gets it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-43105910361428373422007-08-31T05:44:00.000-05:002007-08-31T05:44:00.000-05:00Online personals for interracial singles or those seeking interracial relationships. 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All I ask is that the government doesn't require me to honor any such contract to which I am not party.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-37406916247794950752007-08-30T22:43:00.000-05:002007-08-30T22:43:00.000-05:00Iowa? Really?<BR/><BR/>Go Iowa.<BR/><BR/>Iowa. Not Massachusettes, not Vermont or New Jersey.<BR/><BR/>Iowa.<BR/><BR/>Go figure. <BR/><BR/>Cool. They gots some guts on that court.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-29814868343143920052007-08-30T21:21:00.000-05:002007-08-30T21:21:00.000-05:00"same-sex" amrriage...<BR/>after being married for almost 12 years, I'm still getting the "same sex", I'd like something different.<BR/><BR/>All joking aside. As a straight male, I don't see what the problem is. If gays want to marry, go for it. Who cares? <BR/>If it's an issue of who gets what in the event of a deat, make a will! <BR/>Unless I'm wrong, and AI should know this one, I can will anything I want to whomever I choose, leaving my heirs with very little..<BR/>our stupid azzed government needs to stick to running the gubment, not peoples lives.<BR/>Let the Supreme Judge decide someones eternal ever-after on their judgement day!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-75130347638494919302007-08-30T21:04:00.000-05:002007-08-30T21:04:00.000-05:00The decision was correctly decided under the state constitutional analysis set down by the Iowa Supreme Court. The decision gives true meaning to the literal intent of the equal protection and due process clauses. People like to complain about judicial activism when they really don't like the broad meaning of the words chosen by the founders who wrote these provisions into our state constitutions. You can just as easily make the argument that judges are being activist by reading out the literal meaning of these words in the constitution to fit a social agenda of their own.Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-73123259335296509792007-08-30T21:01:00.000-05:002007-08-30T21:01:00.000-05:00Another news flash--only slightly off subject, but bear with me:<BR/><BR/>I'm eating lunch the other day in a well-known local restaurant. Guess who sits at the table next to us? Eric Miller.<BR/><BR/>Now, I don't eavesdrop all the time, but he was loud. He bragged how they'd beat Rep. Austin and anyone who got in the way of them on gay marriage.<BR/><BR/>And then, what did this dennison of the far right do?<BR/><BR/>I swear, he cleaned his ears with a car key. I almost threw up at the table, as did my tablemates.<BR/><BR/>What a classy guy.<BR/><BR/>Sorry for the diversion. Had to relate this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-25118226030115685532007-08-30T20:52:00.000-05:002007-08-30T20:52:00.000-05:00Damn...it already happened. As I was typing, too...<BR/><BR/>Look, 8:49 No. 1: the Court, apparently, ruled properly that the Equal Protection Clause of Iowa's Constitution, which I'm assuming is much like ours, needed to extend to gay couples, too.<BR/><BR/>Get over it.<BR/><BR/>Not all victories and proper progress in civil rights come via legislatures.<BR/><BR/>And if we're waiting on America's worst state legislature, well, last session, they gave us:<BR/><BR/>1. "In God We Trust" license plates, which, if no fee is charged like other vanity plates, clearly establishes Christianity as an official state religion.<BR/><BR/>2. $250 per property owner as property tax relief. With no freaking idea where it was coming from, or how to send it out. Pander left, pander right...<BR/><BR/>3. A budget that's built on a hope and a prayer.<BR/><BR/>So yeah, if courts are the only way to redress grievances, it's fair.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-36001419271176964512007-08-30T20:49:00.001-05:002007-08-30T20:49:00.001-05:00I almost hate to trumpet this...the NeoCons will come out of the woodwork.<BR/><BR/>But it is great news.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-9292551019190099482007-08-30T20:49:00.000-05:002007-08-30T20:49:00.000-05:00Here's my question for you, Gary.<BR/><BR/>Do you believe that the Iowa court decision was the correct one?<BR/><BR/>In general, are you in favor of same-sex marriages enabled through judical rulings rather than a legislative act?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com