<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post6944556709025464341..comments</id><updated>2020-04-11T03:30:02.282-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Advance Indiana™: Indiana State Fair Official Ignored Meteorologist&#39;s Advice To Delay Concert</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/6944556709025464341/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2011/08/indiana-state-fair-official-ignored.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Gary R. Welsh</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>6</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7993380549355912907</id><published>2011-08-18T12:27:21.944-05:00</published><updated>2011-08-18T12:27:21.944-05:00</updated><title type='text'>No question but that plaintiffs&amp;#39; lawyers, if t...</title><content type='html'>No question but that plaintiffs&amp;#39; lawyers, if they are doing their jobs, will name the operator of the stage equipment as a defendant, charging negligence. The only way I could see the band&amp;#39;s promoter being named was if it insisted on the concert going forward, but as I understand it, these concerts are insured to cover potential losses in the event of bad weather. Not sure of the specifics of how that insurance operates. If something was shown by the engineering firm&amp;#39;s investigation to have been defective with the stage equipment as manufactured, the manufacturer could also be liable. The state initially has to be quickly named as a defendant because of the short period of notice under the tort claims against governmental entities statute.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/6944556709025464341/comments/default/7993380549355912907'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/6944556709025464341/comments/default/7993380549355912907'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2011/08/indiana-state-fair-official-ignored.html?showComment=1313688441944#c7993380549355912907' title=''/><author><name>Gary R. Welsh</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2011/08/indiana-state-fair-official-ignored.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-6944556709025464341' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/6944556709025464341' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1884480062"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="12:27 PM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-2694518011989753266</id><published>2011-08-18T12:06:28.290-05:00</published><updated>2011-08-18T12:06:28.290-05:00</updated><title type='text'>What I would love your take on is the story from I...</title><content type='html'>What I would love your take on is the story from IBJ:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.ibj.com/damage-cap-limits-states-potential-losses-from-stage-tragedy/PARAMS/article/28979&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This line caught me:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because of a state law that limits individual damage claims against the state to $700,000 and overall claims to $5 million per event, several other entities besides the state fair might become targets of negligence lawsuits, legal experts say. They could include the designer and builder of the stage or even the promoter of the concert, according to lawyers.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/6944556709025464341/comments/default/2694518011989753266'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/6944556709025464341/comments/default/2694518011989753266'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2011/08/indiana-state-fair-official-ignored.html?showComment=1313687188290#c2694518011989753266' title=''/><author><name>Indiana</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05746574133165973524</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2011/08/indiana-state-fair-official-ignored.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-6944556709025464341' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/6944556709025464341' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1756450956"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="12:06 PM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-6256847125137510943</id><published>2011-08-18T11:49:06.051-05:00</published><updated>2011-08-18T11:49:06.051-05:00</updated><title type='text'>According to Illinois fair officials, whenever wea...</title><content type='html'>According to Illinois fair officials, whenever weather is approaching with high winds, the overhead canopy is lowered as a precaution. The stage operator had to know of the approaching bad weather with high winds and chose not to order its rigging lowered. If you own the equipment and are liable for harm it causes to others, not to mention the fact that you risk the destruction of your own equipment if you fail to act, then the prudent thing would have been to have lowered the overhead canopy whether state fair officials wanted that done or not. Just like the band would have told fair officials they weren&amp;#39;t stepping foot on that stage until the bad weather passed. They would risk injury due to electrical shock if the wind blew rain into the stage area. I would be curious to know if Sugarland had communicated at any point to state fair officials in those last minutes leading up to the storm whether they would actually take the stage.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/6944556709025464341/comments/default/6256847125137510943'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/6944556709025464341/comments/default/6256847125137510943'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2011/08/indiana-state-fair-official-ignored.html?showComment=1313686146051#c6256847125137510943' title=''/><author><name>Gary R. Welsh</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2011/08/indiana-state-fair-official-ignored.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-6944556709025464341' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/6944556709025464341' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1884480062"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="11:49 AM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1750305255566262867</id><published>2011-08-18T11:35:55.829-05:00</published><updated>2011-08-18T11:35:55.829-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Again - outside looking in but the fabric top is m...</title><content type='html'>Again - outside looking in but the fabric top is made to rip away in a wind situtation.  You can&amp;#39;t lace it to the structure without using certian strength rope - no wire ties or anything like that.  It looks like the top edge broke free popped up and then acted like a sail and never completely let go.  That &amp;quot;sail&amp;quot; would put to much stress and the failures would start.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was talking to a friend who tours with a large pro audio company and he said there have been three top failures this season (Indiana being the worst).  It happens.  Usually people aren&amp;#39;t around because they have been told to leave.......which brings us back to the title of your post.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I feel for Mid-America.  They have to play a balance for the truss, what the customer wants (State Fair), what the artist wants and so on.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Regardless, it all comes back to weather.  The wind caused the rig to fail.  Should the rig be made to handle a greater windspeed?  Was the rig mis-loaded?  Wind still took it down.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/6944556709025464341/comments/default/1750305255566262867'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/6944556709025464341/comments/default/1750305255566262867'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2011/08/indiana-state-fair-official-ignored.html?showComment=1313685355829#c1750305255566262867' title=''/><author><name>Indiana</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05746574133165973524</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2011/08/indiana-state-fair-official-ignored.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-6944556709025464341' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/6944556709025464341' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1756450956"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="11:35 AM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7295495770866529235</id><published>2011-08-18T09:22:07.749-05:00</published><updated>2011-08-18T09:22:07.749-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Thanks for sharing, Indiana. The rig looks a bit d...</title><content type='html'>Thanks for sharing, Indiana. The rig looks a bit different in terms of how the legs are configured to support it, although the Indiana rig actually looks like it is better supported. The video, however, shows the legs supporting the structure buckling beneath it, which suggests a serious load balance issue with the structure. I&amp;#39;ve had that problem before with the legs on metal shelfing buckling and collapsing the entire shelfing structure when weight was added to unevenly, throwing off its balance, even without wind being a factor.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/6944556709025464341/comments/default/7295495770866529235'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/6944556709025464341/comments/default/7295495770866529235'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2011/08/indiana-state-fair-official-ignored.html?showComment=1313677327749#c7295495770866529235' title=''/><author><name>Gary R. Welsh</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2011/08/indiana-state-fair-official-ignored.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-6944556709025464341' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/6944556709025464341' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1884480062"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="9:22 AM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-6213895783616908128</id><published>2011-08-18T09:04:07.237-05:00</published><updated>2011-08-18T09:04:07.237-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I used to work in the industry years ago.  Just fo...</title><content type='html'>I used to work in the industry years ago.  Just for a point - Mid-Americas Rig can be raised or lowered.  I can&amp;#39;t say for 100%, but I believe it is made by the same company as the Illinois rig.  90% of the rigs that are of this league are Thomas Truss.  In fact, I wouldn&amp;#39;t trust anything that was not Thomas Truss, they set the standard for the business.  In fact this rig was beefed up in 2006 (see http://midamericasound.com/?m=200608 ).</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/6944556709025464341/comments/default/6213895783616908128'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/6944556709025464341/comments/default/6213895783616908128'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2011/08/indiana-state-fair-official-ignored.html?showComment=1313676247237#c6213895783616908128' title=''/><author><name>Indiana</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/05746574133165973524</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2011/08/indiana-state-fair-official-ignored.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-6944556709025464341' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/6944556709025464341' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1756450956"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="9:04 AM GMT-5"/></entry></feed>