<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post7092702232931009712..comments</id><updated>2020-04-11T03:30:02.282-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Advance Indiana™: Do We Have This Election All Wrong?</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7092702232931009712/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/10/do-we-have-this-election-all-wrong.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Gary R. Welsh</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>10</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-2890593788670171070</id><published>2008-10-31T17:25:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-31T17:25:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I&#39;ve always liked the British and Canadian models ...</title><content type='html'>I&#39;ve always liked the British and Canadian models for calling an election six weeks hence.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7092702232931009712/comments/default/2890593788670171070'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7092702232931009712/comments/default/2890593788670171070'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/10/do-we-have-this-election-all-wrong.html?showComment=1225491900000#c2890593788670171070' title=''/><author><name>Covenant60</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00778037319510838719</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/10/do-we-have-this-election-all-wrong.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7092702232931009712' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/7092702232931009712' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-803138926"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="5:25 PM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7000812149368817605</id><published>2008-10-31T16:20:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-31T16:20:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The most insidious form of voter fraud is the draw...</title><content type='html'>The most insidious form of voter fraud is the drawn-out campaign process.  The past 6 months (at least) have a continuous set of polls geared towards tugging voters from one side to the other.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It&#39;s a sad truth that a lot of voters vote for who they perceive will be the winner.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The campaign duration needs to be cut down to 6 months.  If a candidate needs 2 years to make their case, that means they don&#39;t know what their case is and they need the time to make it up as they go along.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7092702232931009712/comments/default/7000812149368817605'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7092702232931009712/comments/default/7000812149368817605'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/10/do-we-have-this-election-all-wrong.html?showComment=1225488000000#c7000812149368817605' title=''/><author><name>Downtown Indy</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/06239811599722585898</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zXyjavZjrCI/T16f6LO4sPI/AAAAAAAAAiE/_S7sKNThcJQ/s220/Green%2BBarn.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/10/do-we-have-this-election-all-wrong.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7092702232931009712' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/7092702232931009712' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-610550365"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="4:20 PM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-3180698025027339961</id><published>2008-10-31T15:17:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-31T15:17:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I just got back from trying to vote at Hancock Co....</title><content type='html'>I just got back from trying to vote at Hancock Co. courthouse.  I walked in and saw a line on the second floor where one votes.  I asked the deputy at the desk if that was the line and he said it was.  It would have been at least an hour wait there was so many people.  He said that at 8AM, there were four people, by 8:30AM, there were 50.  I for one do not think this is an indication of an Obama landslide.  I am voting, begrudgingly, for socialist-light McCain over die-hard socialist Obama.  I really think this election could have an outcome that shocks the mainstream media and no one else.  If McCain pulls this off, I fully expect protests with riots in some areas.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7092702232931009712/comments/default/3180698025027339961'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7092702232931009712/comments/default/3180698025027339961'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/10/do-we-have-this-election-all-wrong.html?showComment=1225484220000#c3180698025027339961' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/10/do-we-have-this-election-all-wrong.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7092702232931009712' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/7092702232931009712' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1114923450"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="3:17 PM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-5118804701924363733</id><published>2008-10-31T15:05:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-31T15:05:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>AI.... the thing most telling to me in that post i...</title><content type='html'>AI.... the thing most telling to me in that post is something that has been pointed out before.... the skewing of the polls to oversample Dem votes and/or undersample GOP votes.  The reason the pollsters are doing this is because they are all buying into the Obamamedia line that millions and millions of new Dem registrations will turn out.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The thing is, Dems say this every time.  It is very easy to register voters.  Turning them out is the big problem for Dems.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The truth is now coming out in surveys of early voting in Florida and Nevada and someplace else that escapes me.  Although there is an uptick in AA voting (which is to be expected obviously) which will vote at least 95% for Obama, there has been absulotely NO sign that voters under 30 are turning out in any greater numbers than they have in the past.  NONE.  In fact, their turnout may even be lower.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And in Nevada, GOP early turnout is about even with Dem early turnout.  Given that all the polls indicate that about 88% of GOPs are voting McCain (about the same as Dems for Obama), this is not the news that the Dems were expecting.  This is borne out by the exit polling of early voters there.... about 50-50.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Now, there is polling today in Missouri, for example, that indicates that rural and small town voters are polling for McCain in a BIG way, putting McCain ahead in that state.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And there is where the rubber will meet the road on Tuesday.  Will GOP voters turn out in comparable numbers to their past turnout?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It is an open question.  My hunch is that they will.  I also believe that undecideds will break for McCain as well.  Most if them, polls indicate, are rural, older, downscale voters who usually vote GOP.  They have yet to toss in with Obama, even at this late stage.  Odds are most of them won&#39;t, since they haven&#39;t by now.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think a lot of this has to do with the enormous amount of anti-Obama energy that is developing across the battleground states, and not a small amount of trepidation of Obama. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It is 4 days from Election Day.  What with a 6 month Big Brother style onslaught of ALL BARACK ALL THE TIME from practically every form of media, there is a REASON why 10% of voters are undecided, and have yet to go with Obama.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And McCain has been saturating battleground state with ads for about 10 days now.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If GOP votes in its usual numbers, and the Dems vote theirs, even with an extra 1-2% of AA votes..... it will make for a loooooong night on Tuesday.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;We can only vote and watch what happens.  And given all the predictions of a HUUUUGE turnout (not just limited to Dem voters, mind you), we will see if the pollsters have oversampled Dem voters this year.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And don&#39;t forget to discount the exit polls..... they have oversampled Dems two times in a row.  There is no reason to think they won&#39;t be oversampled again, and every reason to think that they will.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7092702232931009712/comments/default/5118804701924363733'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7092702232931009712/comments/default/5118804701924363733'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/10/do-we-have-this-election-all-wrong.html?showComment=1225483500000#c5118804701924363733' title=''/><author><name>Covenant60</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00778037319510838719</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/10/do-we-have-this-election-all-wrong.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7092702232931009712' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/7092702232931009712' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-803138926"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="3:05 PM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-344004673645464082</id><published>2008-10-31T12:51:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-31T12:51:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I thought the same. The public polls show the race...</title><content type='html'>I thought the same. The public polls show the race is not even close in Iowa. Internal polls for both candidates are saying something entirely different according to some news reports today.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7092702232931009712/comments/default/344004673645464082'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7092702232931009712/comments/default/344004673645464082'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/10/do-we-have-this-election-all-wrong.html?showComment=1225475460000#c344004673645464082' title=''/><author><name>Gary R. Welsh</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/10/do-we-have-this-election-all-wrong.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7092702232931009712' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/7092702232931009712' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1884480062"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="12:51 PM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7017361776639144870</id><published>2008-10-31T12:46:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-31T12:46:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>So THAT&#39;S why Obama is in Iowa.  Hmmmmmm.There is ...</title><content type='html'>So THAT&#39;S why Obama is in Iowa.  Hmmmmmm.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;There is a lot of anti-Obama energy out there.  Believe me.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But all we can do is vote.  And we are all going to do that.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And we&#39;ll see.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7092702232931009712/comments/default/7017361776639144870'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7092702232931009712/comments/default/7017361776639144870'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/10/do-we-have-this-election-all-wrong.html?showComment=1225475160000#c7017361776639144870' title=''/><author><name>Covenant60</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/00778037319510838719</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/10/do-we-have-this-election-all-wrong.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7092702232931009712' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/7092702232931009712' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-803138926"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="12:46 PM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-176591795974084811</id><published>2008-10-31T09:29:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-31T09:29:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I can&#39;t recall if I have ever been called in a pas...</title><content type='html'>I can&#39;t recall if I have ever been called in a past election, but I know that I have been called three times this year.  My wife has been called at least twice.  All five (at least) times we just hang right up.  This is the second time I have heard of the 70-80% hang up rate.  There is no way any poll company will likely admit to this, as it might make polling appear unreliable, thus some organizations may decide against hiring these firms.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7092702232931009712/comments/default/176591795974084811'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7092702232931009712/comments/default/176591795974084811'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/10/do-we-have-this-election-all-wrong.html?showComment=1225463340000#c176591795974084811' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/10/do-we-have-this-election-all-wrong.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7092702232931009712' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/7092702232931009712' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1114923450"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="9:29 AM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1348404807197278247</id><published>2008-10-31T09:21:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-31T09:21:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Her words ring true Gary.  When I realized how wel...</title><content type='html'>Her words ring true Gary.  When I realized how well organized the PUMA&#39;s are, I knew there was a chance Obama would lose. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The www.pumapac.org blog requires users to register in order to post comments.  And their posts often get 500 or more responses. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Unlike the Obama/ACORN campaigns, these workers are passionate and unpaid.  Unpaid campaign workers are always best because they work because of heart, not because somebody like an Obama or a Bart Peterson is paying them $10 to go to house to house. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You will never hear a peep from the immoral mainstream media about these democrat patriots and their well-oiled and well organized activism. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;GO TO &lt;BR/&gt;www.pumapac.org</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7092702232931009712/comments/default/1348404807197278247'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7092702232931009712/comments/default/1348404807197278247'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/10/do-we-have-this-election-all-wrong.html?showComment=1225462860000#c1348404807197278247' title=''/><author><name>M Theory</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/01892309818226431745</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_3C-GegnrxUQ/SKtT8FloHrI/AAAAAAAAAzg/b-2DU91Zmtw/S220/Black+Sunday+Mely.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/10/do-we-have-this-election-all-wrong.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7092702232931009712' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/7092702232931009712' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-383808155"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="9:21 AM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-4249910823275525852</id><published>2008-10-31T08:42:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-31T08:42:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>It&#39;s hard to believe the polls are off that much; ...</title><content type='html'>It&#39;s hard to believe the polls are off that much; however, there is a lot of truth in what is written about the Obama/Axelrod disinformation machine. I&#39;ve heard plenty of stories from my old friends in Illinois politics about how effective they are at this game. To that extent, the writer has it pegged. Question for you varangianguard. Have you been polled this year? I&#39;ve been polled frequently in the last few elections. This election, I have not been polled once. This is quite surprising to me given that there are far more polls being taken this year than ever before. I do question the extent to which the pollsters are upping the Obama numbers based on anticipated voter turnout. There is a great deal of risk in doing that. As far as I can tell from where I sit, Republicans are just as likely to get out and vote this year as Democrats. I don&#39;t see the Rs being so dissolusioned that they are staying home this year like what happened in 2006 to the Rs or what happened to the Dems in 1994.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7092702232931009712/comments/default/4249910823275525852'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7092702232931009712/comments/default/4249910823275525852'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/10/do-we-have-this-election-all-wrong.html?showComment=1225460520000#c4249910823275525852' title=''/><author><name>Gary R. Welsh</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/10/do-we-have-this-election-all-wrong.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7092702232931009712' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/7092702232931009712' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1884480062"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="8:42 AM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-6353274467841011039</id><published>2008-10-31T07:58:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-10-31T07:58:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Chance of being picked up by desperate? 100%Chance...</title><content type='html'>Chance of being picked up by desperate? 100%&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Chance of being on the level? Less than 10%.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The nonsense about &quot;I’m going to let you in on a few secrets here...&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Doesn&#39;t even read like it&#39;s written by a woman.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Believe it if you like AI, but I find it pretty laughable.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7092702232931009712/comments/default/6353274467841011039'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7092702232931009712/comments/default/6353274467841011039'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/10/do-we-have-this-election-all-wrong.html?showComment=1225457880000#c6353274467841011039' title=''/><author><name>varangianguard</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/12571595354792261993</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/10/do-we-have-this-election-all-wrong.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7092702232931009712' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/7092702232931009712' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1604737465"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="7:58 AM GMT-5"/></entry></feed>