Comments on Advance Indiana™: Burton Supports Birth Certificate Requirement For Presidential Candidates

"Of course the rest of that story is, the Rep...

2009-07-27T19:33:08.196-05:00

"Of course the rest of that story is, the Republicans have tried several times to purge the rolls, but the Democrats keep blocking it."

Concerned taxpayer, when you make a blanket statement, kindly post some links or text to back up your statement.

I could say, "Republicans have fought to keep ninety-one years dead Brigitte Mayofarbin on the voter roles on the excuse that her body was never found, and that she has voted in every election, for Republicans, since 1867", but unless I posted some kind of proof you would assume that I just made that up.

Now, when I say, "Burton is a wackball nutjob who should have been strangled with his own birth-cord", that's different, and obviously my own opinion - which requires no proof at all.

Obviously, Concerned Taxpayer, you haven't req...

2009-07-27T13:01:55.309-05:00

Obviously, Concerned Taxpayer, you haven't requested a copy of your birth certificate lately. "Extraneous" information has been stripped from all sorts of official documents.
But, then, you probably don't have a passport either. President Obama does -- and he would have had to present a birth certificate to get one.

It's fascinating how a lot of things in politi...

2009-07-26T21:38:40.397-05:00

It's fascinating how a lot of things in politics come down to burden of proof and standards for protection.

For example, when you start purging people from voting, you can make mistakes, and people who should have been able to vote, now can't. As Art said, we can't even get the legitimately registered cleared to vote!

The alternative is that you NOT purge people as readily and you live with the risk that somebody who did not vote unknowingly has a vote cast for him/her.

When I weigh these risks, I'm practical. I ask, "Can you prove a single incident of phantom voting in Marion County?" If not, I'm not going to endorse an expense in dollars and time to fix a non-existent problem.

I support the Republican Party spending its time and money creating and posting on the web a master list of everybody who voted. This way people could check and say, "That wasn't me!" If you got a lot of those, I'd rethink it.

But I don't think it's unreasonable in balancing the risks to think that purging has a greater chance of invalidating a vote than not purging does.

Correct, concerned taxpayer. Any effort to clean u...

2009-07-26T20:32:53.962-05:00

Correct, concerned taxpayer. Any effort to clean up the voter registration rolls in this state is met with cries from Democrats that the only reason for doing it is to disenfranchise voters.

"...you would know what AI and I both know an...

2009-07-26T20:03:04.728-05:00

"...you would know what AI and I both know and that is the voter lists are swollen with dead people, people who moved away years ago and and people who have moved to other parts of Marion County and registered as a new voter rather than a transfer. In addition, women who marry, move within the county are not recognized by the computer as the same person. What this county needs is a good fair way of purging the voter lists so that they reflect the actual voters..."

O M G !!!!! I actually agree with fuggins!!!

Of course the rest of that story is, the Republicans have tried several times to purge the rolls, but the Democrats keep blocking it.

Hoosier in the Heartland-- Obama wasn't born &...

2009-07-26T20:01:09.212-05:00

Hoosier in the Heartland-- Obama wasn't born "these days."

Birth certificates these days seldom name the hosp...

2009-07-25T22:37:20.506-05:00

Birth certificates these days seldom name the hospital (or wherever) one was born.

Abdul's Twitter comments from last night say i...

2009-07-25T18:23:15.980-05:00

Abdul's Twitter comments from last night say it all:

Two Marion County GOP Ward chairmen fired from their positions tonight; Liz Carlson and Eric Smith. about 23 hours ago from TwitterBerry
Is trying to confirm if Kerry Forestall got a US Marshall appointment. about 23 hours ago from TwitterBerry
Is at the Columbia Club enjoying cocktails, cigars and fellow elitists! 04:27:04 PM July 24, 2009 from TwitterBerry

When Peterson was mayor and the Democrats were in ...

2009-07-25T17:52:04.012-05:00

When Peterson was mayor and the Democrats were in control of the council, Abdul was constantly being a thorn in their side. He always insisted that he had no agenda and wasn't doing anyone's bidding for them. A lot of us believed him, but he's now done a 180 and matters that he would have jumped all over when Peterson and the Ds were in charge, he's nowhere to be heard. At the same time, he goes after anyone who is currently at odds with Tom John and Ballard's administration. It's a fact that Abdul affiliated with a law firm where John once worked, although he is not licensed to practice law in Indiana. John now works for Ice Miller. He boasts about how he's always sharing cocktails and cigars with him over at the Columbia Club. In fact, you can actually trace his movements. He meets for drinks with John and then a short time later he starts posting up political gossip items John and his buddies feed him. Many of his former show fans have soured on him because of his hypocrisy. Most of the Dems long ago figured out his schtick. You must be the only one who hasn't.

AI: Have you noticed that anybody who does someth...

2009-07-25T17:11:06.744-05:00

AI: Have you noticed that anybody who does something with which you disagree is almost always doing "somebody's else's bidding." Can't people have independent thoughts? If not, in what way does Ice Miller or Ryan Vaughn control Abdul?!? Inquiring minds would like to know who is puppeting Abdul.

Paul, if you have ever taken time to spend a long ...

2009-07-25T12:10:03.932-05:00

Paul, if you have ever taken time to spend a long hard date working at a precinct, you would know what AI and I both know and that is the voter lists are swollen with dead people, people who moved away years ago and and people who have moved to other parts of Marion County and registered as a new voter rather than a transfer. In addition, women who marry, move within the county are not recognized by the computer as the same person. What this county needs is a good fair way of purging the voter lists so that they reflect the actual voters.....work a precinct sometime and get to know the people. I am sure AI could take his voter list and start marking people he personally knows who no longer live there. This is not part of a massive voter fraud movement but rather poor management by the Office of Voter Registration.

Dana said, "I don't know for certain whic...

2009-07-25T11:52:10.425-05:00

Dana said, "I don't know for certain which hospital I was born in in Indy. And I'm adopted! Does that make me a candidate to show my birth certificate to the Party Police."

Tell that to the BMV branch worker who asks to see your birth certificate when you go to get a driver's license.

Are we in kindergarden, AI? Get over it. I don&#...

2009-07-25T10:54:30.069-05:00

Are we in kindergarden, AI?

Get over it.

I don't know for certain which hospital I was born in in Indy. And I'm adopted! Does that make me a candidate to show my birth certificate to the Party Police?

And the Pope is the Antichrist and ancient astronauts colonized Antarctica in 500AD when it was ice free and vegetarian dinosaurs still cavorted with the Sons of Adam on this 6000 year old planet. Whatever.

Dana said, "Barack was born on 4 August 1961 ...

2009-07-25T09:39:58.931-05:00

Dana said, "Barack was born on 4 August 1961 at the Queen's Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein OBAMA, Sr. of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann DUNHAM of Wichita, Kansas."

Dana, you must have missed that briefing. Queen's Hospital was the hospital at which he claimed he was born while running for president. After he became president, he announced it was Kapi'olani Hospital. Please make a note of that.

Why in the hell are you still pushing this fringer...

2009-07-25T08:18:42.463-05:00

Why in the hell are you still pushing this fringer RedState argument, AI?

The State of Hawaii has the Certificate, we've seen it, end of line.

His great uncle was a member of the 89th Infantry Division that liberated the Ohrduf camp, part of Buchenwald. His mom is from Kansas. Barack was born on 4 August 1961 at the Queen's Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein OBAMA, Sr. of Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann DUNHAM of Wichita, Kansas. His parents met while both were attending the East-West Center of the University of Hawaii at Manoa, where his father was enrolled as a foreign student.

Now, you can be a flat-earther, AI, but I'd suggest, politely, that you get off you high horse and stop enabling people like Burton. Burton's a complete fool.

People who are worthy of holding the office of the...

2009-07-25T01:24:46.656-05:00

People who are worthy of holding the office of the presidency have no problems with their birth certificates. Enough said.

Uuhh, the law says I have to be 21 to enter a bar but they still sometimes ask to see my driver's license, even if it is obvious I'm much older than 21. Your point?

Oh, yeah, Art, we have such an incredible problem ...

2009-07-24T23:14:39.070-05:00

Oh, yeah, Art, we have such an incredible problem getting people registered in Indy. (Sarcasm alert.) We only have more people registered in Indy than we have eligible to vote.

Yes, indeed. There's no constitutional require...

2009-07-24T22:40:56.654-05:00

Yes, indeed. There's no constitutional requirement for anyone running for federal office to produce a birth certificate.

So, why should one be required by statute this long after the country was founded? What problem is such a law intended to fix?

A problem that (obviously) doesn't exist.

Are you incapable of reading? This is proposed as ...

2009-07-24T15:58:55.454-05:00

Are you incapable of reading? This is proposed as a statute and not a constitutional amendment. The extent to which you Obama nuts will go to lie and obfuscate to smear everyone you oppose never ceases to amaze me. It does not in any way seek to change the constitutional requirement that has existed from the very beginning of these United States of America.

As a strict constitutionalist, I can't see ame...

2009-07-24T15:34:05.535-05:00

As a strict constitutionalist, I can't see amending the nation's founding document to satisfy an idiot congressman such as Burton!

We've gotten along just fine for more than 200 years now with no birth certificate constitutionally required.

This is a non-issue. Move along folks. Nothing to see here. Obama was elected president. Get over it.

The legislation is prospective, but I didn't e...

2009-07-24T06:35:53.571-05:00

The legislation is prospective, but I didn't expect you would actually read the proposal. Instead of making Burton the issue here, Hoosier in the Heartland, could you address what is wrong with this requirement?

Let's see: the guy who shot watermelons in his...

2009-07-24T00:57:33.503-05:00

Let's see: the guy who shot watermelons in his back yard thinks the guy who won the presidency should present his birth certificate?

How about Burton should prove he's still a competent adult?

The real problem with the BMV is that thousands of...

2009-07-23T18:18:34.926-05:00

The real problem with the BMV is that thousands of eligible voters who registered at the BMV did not turn in the forms so the people who registered were not listed on the voting poll sheet and thus were denied the right to vote. I dont know whether that is by design or whether the BMV is just incapable of turning the forms into the voter registration office but it is a serious problem.