Comments on Advance Indiana™: Will ACS Gain Complete Control Of FSSA?

ACS also has a deal with the Department of Workfor...

2010-10-16T23:30:53.094-05:00

ACS also has a deal with the Department of Workforce Development to do its unemployment debit cards (I think the same cards are used for maybe child support in Indiana, although I'm not sure). According to a press release at the time of the deal (http://www.in.gov/dwd/files/NR_08-09-06.pdf), the state would not pay ACS a "set amount" to run the debit card program. Instead, they would earn their profits from merchants of the VISA program and not from the debit card users (although there is an extensive list of charges for users).

Ok, fine and dandy ACS was awarded the contract, but when looking at ALL the connections ACS has with both the state and city of Indianapolis, it's continually disconcerting ACS has such an overwhelming presence. I am unfamiliar with the actual contract itself, how it was awarded, how long it is to last, etc., and this lack of information keeps any ACS deal (in particular with such an inept and ethically-challenged organization as DWD has been during this administration) under further suspicion for a lot of people.

ACS got themselves a heck of a deal with DWD - they didn't have to pay a dime to the state and keeps getting to reap-in profits. I am sure, much like the unemployment modernization deal with Haverstick Consulting, everything is on the up-and-up.

I do find that very interesting. And they all have...

2010-10-16T20:12:35.511-05:00

I do find that very interesting. And they all have ties, Ballard, Barnes & Thornburg, Daniels, FSSA, ACS. Just keeps getting deeper.

Kate said, "Anyone wondering if the man that ...

2010-10-16T17:18:10.406-05:00

Kate said, "Anyone wondering if the man that killed his wife, shot at Barnes & Thornburg, then committed suicide knew more than he posted on his facebook?"

A number of people have wondered if there wasn't a connection between the Frisby murder-suicide and the death of Joe Miller, the world's largest manufacturer of Poppers. Barnes & Thornburg supposedly represented Miller's business interests and an attorney at the firm is rumored to have found Miller dead the same day of the Frisby murder-suicide. Supposedly the government raided his businesses and hauled away his computers. Law enforcement won't say a word about it. Was Miller murdered, suicide or what? They won't even confirm that they raided his business. And the news media seems to have no interest in finding out answers to those questions. It's all very strange.

Here ya go. More ACS reading: http://www.antifasci...

2010-10-16T16:38:58.863-05:00

Here ya go. More ACS reading:
http://www.antifascistencyclopedia.com/allposts/lexington-comair-crash-parts-1-5-the-hand-on-the-data-streamteterboro-incidentdarwins-devolution-cia-terrorismflight-lessonteterboro-the-cia

Anyone wondering if the man that killed his wife, ...

2010-10-16T16:04:49.533-05:00

Anyone wondering if the man that killed his wife, shot at Barnes & Thornburg, then committed suicide knew more than he posted on his facebook? Here's the excert from his facebook posting:
"The bad lawyers at the Barnes and Thornburg law firm ... do not respect the institution of marriage and corrupted my wife Mary Jane (sex and drugs). Someone (maybe one of their good lawyers) please make them pay. Justice demands the truth out."
This reminds me of the movie, The Devils Advocate. Interesting....

Very serious business here and the people involved...

2010-10-16T15:53:34.883-05:00

Very serious business here and the people involved very serious. I think this huge and goes deep. Tread lightly and back up your information in several places, with several people.
Sounds like a conspiracy theory, but look at the magnitude of the corruption. People have disappeared for less. Someone needs to gather this information into one format and send to CNN and as many other people that can investigate this. Keep digging I'm sure there's more out there.

Agreed on the equitable burning of political carca...

2010-10-16T14:59:31.541-05:00

Agreed on the equitable burning of political carcasses. But, try teaching this non-denominational burning to our "journalists".

Geez, Gary, it's worse than I ever thought. B...

2010-10-16T11:51:39.184-05:00

Geez, Gary, it's worse than I ever thought. B&T used to represent ACS AND IBM on the FSSA privatization deal. Now they represent FSSA against IBM in litigation over the same deal. If I did something like that they'd take away my law license.

Until everyone!!!! realizes that the corruption is...

2010-10-16T11:45:21.974-05:00

Until everyone!!!! realizes that the corruption is endemic and that it doesn't get exposed because everyone else tangentially involved wants to keep their job, their suburban house, three-car garage, five near-luxury vehicles and the summer vacations in Bermuda, there can not and will not be any change. The masses think that one party or the other (or at least certain members thereof) are on their side. Well, they are not, never have been and never will be.

The bulls... being plied by Goldsmith and his cronies was evident when he first ran for mayor, but some people still lap it up no matter how putrid it gets. But that is the result when we allow our public servants to play divide and conquer while each takes turns plundering our cities, states and nation (and the world via a hegemonic empire).

Until we reject the political parties and literally burn their dried elephant and donkey carcasses at the stake, it will only be us getting scorched, burned and buried in ashes.

I'm still digesting, but if there's enoug...

2010-10-16T08:16:55.258-05:00

I'm still digesting, but if there's enough traction here, it could be worse for Daniels than a true jobs count, the earlier FSSA episode, and the IP&L stock deal.

I don't deny corruption is corruption, but the problem is we're nationally (not locally) fixated on only exposing one side of it. ACS would make plenty of splash nationally with Daniels as a Presidential candidate. But, contrast that with how little mass media has cared to investigate full disclosure of President Obama's birth, health, political, and educational records. McCain would have had the investigators-diving-thru-dumpsters routine that Palin got in Alaska.

Without an equitable standard of investigative journalism, the good news is corruption on one side is exposed. The potential bad news is we're left with a corrupt President, only this one also sees "rights" in the Constitution that aren't written there and doesn't seem to be a big fan of free enterprise capitalism.

The scandal ridden administation of Mitch Daniels ...

2010-10-16T07:34:13.702-05:00

The scandal ridden administation of Mitch Daniels just keeps on giving. When the citizens of Indiana fully understand how much Mitch has screwed us during his time in office, the revolt will start.

"I'm still trying to figure out how Barne...

2010-10-16T06:36:22.156-05:00

"I'm still trying to figure out how Barnes & Thornburg could represent ACS at the same time it is suing its partner in the FSSA privatization deal on behalf of the state, but the big law firms must know more about conflicts of interest than gumshoe attorneys like myself."

No kidding. How is that not a conflict of interest? Oh, wait, where did Mr. Lundberg, former head of the Disciplinary Commission, end up when he left this year? Barnes & Thornburg.

Regardless, I don't know why the State would hire B&T to represent the State in litigation. They'll end up fleecing the state for inflated legal bills probably as much as the State can get for as much or more than what they'll get in return. Second, their litigation work is often subpar. When you hire B&T, you are generally doing that because you're buying political influence, not getting quality legal representation.

Thanks so much for doing the research on this, Gary. I didn't know about all the connections. It's more than a bit disconcerting.

Surprise,surprise, surprise! If someone in the le...

2010-10-16T06:11:34.680-05:00

Surprise,surprise, surprise!

If someone in the legal circles would get together withe each and everyone of you reporting all of this mess and fill a bus either to the new US Attorney in Indianapolis or to the Dept of justice in Washington and as a GROUP speak up then the pressure would be on.

You all do excellent work individually but the forum needs a group communicating FACE to FACE and presenting ALL of your fantastic and factual material so the AUTHORITIES have no choice but to act and act in the open.

I tried for six years on my own and the crooked Attorney's in Indianapolis (and they know who they are) made sure the land mines along the way distracted everyone from the real reason for the corruption.

As a group of very educated and well respected local truth tellers you need to collectively pool your resources and call this out as one. Once and for ALL!

Interesting. I found the site to read ACS/911 : ht...

2010-10-16T02:09:26.326-05:00

Interesting. I found the site to read ACS/911 : http://911review.org/Alex/CIA_deckers_Atta_ACS.html

You'll get a kick out of this, Pat. As a gover...

2010-10-16T01:48:09.831-05:00

You'll get a kick out of this, Pat. As a government contractor, ACS approved the change in 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta's visa status in the US from tourist to student - and later called it a computer storage error. Apparently, ACS has deep CIA ties.

The stench of this deal is still lingering through...

2010-10-16T01:17:28.067-05:00

The stench of this deal is still lingering through out the city. The conflicts of interest are apparent and it surfaces the special interests involved.
Seriously folks let's get real. Public officials are supposed to be trustees of the commonweal, not political buccaneers seeking their own private gain. But sometimes, in what economists call a principal-agent problem, those trustees forsake that obligation and misuse the power delegated to them in ways that advance their personal interests rather than those of the public.
Corruption distorts the allocation of resources toward projects that
can generate illicit payoffs. Besides the undesirable efficiency consequences arising
from this distortion, the effect is likely to aggravate social inequalities, because the poor and powerless suffer, by definition, a comparative disadvantage in securing special favors.
As far as the 200 jobs ACS proposed to bring to the city for seven years that is a manipulation of the people to get this deal passed. Here’s some food for thought about ACS.
Salaries of ACS fall below the average. Their wages actually fall with in the poverty level. ACS employee's are also on a salary freeze and have not received a raise in over three years. They have posted management positions for starting wages of $9.50 hourly.
ACS has a 2.2 company rating nation wide by their employee’s. This is a strong indicator that ACS is not the kind of company the city of Indianapolis and the people of Indianapolis need. Indianapolis needs good, strong, ethical companies like Google, SAS, Qualcomm, and Genentech. Each of those companies has a program that enables employees to voice their ideas, enhances the innovative culture, and ultimately develops ideas that will benefit the business, communities, and employees. Each company supports innovation. They offer stress free environments and offer their employee's livable wages with exceptional perks. AND their annual earnings and profits are less than that of ACS (Affiliated Computer Services).
So, for ACS to "say" they are going to bring 200 jobs with this deal is insulting.
Their current employees’s throughout Indiana live off pennies, food stamps, and are regular patrons of local food pantries. Unless you work for ACS, people have no idea what ACS employee’s endure.

Let's hope it's not ACS running FSSA. It w...

2010-10-16T01:16:56.532-05:00

Let's hope it's not ACS running FSSA. It would create more of a disaster than it is now. It's pathetic to see how people down and out have to struggle to get help with food and have to wait months to hear if they qualify. ACS has not made the situation better, if anything they have made it worse. Let's get one thing straight, ACS is profiting from food stamp recipients. That should tell you something. The stench of this deal is still lingering through out the city. The conflicts of interest are apparent and it surfaces the special interests involved.
Seriously folks let's get real. Public officials are supposed to be trustees of the commonweal, not political buccaneers seeking their own private gain. But sometimes, in what economists call a principal-agent problem, those trustees forsake that obligation and misuse the power delegated to them in ways that advance their personal interests rather than those of the public.
Corruption distorts the allocation of resources toward projects that
can generate illicit payoffs. Besides the undesirable efficiency consequences arising
from this distortion, the effect is likely to aggravate social inequalities, because the poor and powerless suffer, by definition, a comparative disadvantage in securing special favors.
As far as the 200 jobs ACS proposed to bring to the city for seven years that is a manipulation of the people to get this deal passed. Here’s some food for thought about ACS.
Salaries of ACS fall below the average. Their wages actually fall with in the poverty level. ACS employee's are also on a salary freeze and have not received a raise in over three years. They have posted management positions for starting wages of $9.50 hourly.
ACS has a 2.2 company rating nation wide by their employee’s. This is a strong indicator that ACS is not the kind of company the city of Indianapolis and the people of Indianapolis need. Indianapolis needs good, strong, ethical companies like Google, SAS, Qualcomm, and Genentech. Each of those companies has a program that enables employees to voice their ideas, enhances the innovative culture, and ultimately develops ideas that will benefit the business, communities, and employees. Each company supports innovation. They offer stress free environments and offer their employee's livable wages with exceptional perks. AND their annual earnings and profits are less than that of ACS (Affiliated Computer Services).
So, for ACS to "say" they are going to bring 200 jobs with this deal is insulting.
Their current employees’s throughout Indiana live off pennies, food stamps, and are regular patrons of local food pantries. Unless you work for ACS, people have no idea what ACS employee’s endure.

OMG - you need a roadmap. What the hell is ACS? a...

2010-10-15T22:06:27.684-05:00

OMG - you need a roadmap.

What the hell is ACS? and, why are so many connections running through them????

Did Goldsmith-ites create ACS? Or, just become associated with ACS after Goldsmith had to open his own doors?