Comments on Advance Indiana™: Ballard In Hot Water Over Pool Closings

Wilson continued..."Because the "poor people" hope...

2009-03-23T22:38:00.000-05:00

Wilson continued..."Because the "poor people" hope they will continue to get their FREE gravy train without having to work for it."

I'm just wondering what the hel- uh heck poor people ever did to you. Has it ever occurred to you that there may be working poor people.

Public Pool for kids = Gravy Train?

What do you call Conseco or Lucas Oil Stadium then (that I don't use butpay for) Do you call it the Gravy Boat, Gravy Yacht...maybe Crazy Train?

Really, please respond to this so I can see if you are consistent or just have it out for poor people with no regard for hypocrisy (as in you practing the art of).

Wilson, you forgot to mention how if anyone dares ...

2009-03-22T13:31:00.000-05:00

Wilson, you forgot to mention how if anyone dares to run against the Carson cabal in the Democratic Primary, they try to destroy their lives. Buy, hey, who's counting?

"Others actually are elected repeatedly by the cit...

2009-03-22T13:23:00.000-05:00

"Others actually are elected repeatedly by the citizens to be representatives and spokespersons for the community..."

Wilson continued..."Because the "poor people" hope they will continue to get their FREE gravy train without having to work for it."

Some people are self-appointed "spokespeople" for ...

2009-03-22T11:51:00.000-05:00

Some people are self-appointed "spokespeople" for the community. Others actually are elected repeatedly by the citizens to be representatives and spokespersons for the community...

I don't know, Attyabdul, I think that's signficant...

2009-03-22T09:05:00.000-05:00

I don't know, Attyabdul, I think that's signficantly better than the Carson cabal speaking for the "community."

This is just another example of how things get don...

2009-03-22T08:51:00.000-05:00

This is just another example of how things get done (er, NOT done) in this city.

Apparently fear of raising taxes or fees a smidgen causes the politicians to sit on their behinds and defer, delay and deny until one day a problem can no longer be ignored.

The end result? We get to the point were a massive increase is necessary all in one shot.

So we get lulled into a sense of well-being. We hear 'I won't raise your taxes' election after election, then one day all hell breaks loose.

That's what happened with the sewer system, it's what's happening with the parks.

Spooknp, when you said, "The same community that s...

2009-03-22T08:40:00.000-05:00

Spooknp, when you said, "The same community that seems to want something for nothing,"I thought you were talking Indy's professional sports community.

Hmmm...Parks and Recreation Budget-Pool closings v...

2009-03-22T08:12:00.000-05:00

Hmmm...Parks and Recreation Budget-Pool closings vs. Arts Funding?
Pool closings vs. Arts Funding?
1 hour long after school arts programs to prevent juvenile crime?
Or..all day long in the heat of the summer with nothing for kids to do?
Millions in Crime Prevention Grants given for nebulous after school programs? Or, could a new non-profit called "Pool repairs against juvenile crime" been formed to receive a city crime prevention grant?

When Larry and Rev. Solomon are becoming spokespeo...

2009-03-22T08:11:00.000-05:00

When Larry and Rev. Solomon are becoming spokespeople for the "community" you know things are going to hell.

The Ballard and Peterson Administrations...it's li...

2009-03-22T08:09:00.000-05:00

The Ballard and Peterson Administrations...it's like a Special Olympics Model United Nations summit.

This is obviously a cost cutting plan that has a disparate impact on primarily black neighborhoods whether intentional or not.

The same community that seems to want something for nothing. I find it hilarious that the one guy said the closing of the pools would put kids out on the street. Sorry, but if kids are out on the street, that is their _parents_ allowing/putting them out there. I grew up in a suburban county in a community that didn't have a high school pool nor a community pool. We drove to the old Boogie Mountain and Thunder Island and _paid_ what was needed to swim in a pool. Sometimes we went out to Greenfield. One aunt eventually had a pool built, so we could go over there if we wanted. Pools are just over rated. If you want a pool, go to the YMCA. Funny how Indy Parks had to offer a shuttle service, did any of the caring residents, especially those that can't, won't, and/or no longer work, offer to _volunteer_ their time to help care "FOR THE CHILDREN!!" Of course not. It is all about demanding someone else to provide: Provide us housing, provide us free food, provide us cheap/free daycare, provide us cheap/free health care, provide us cheap/free pools, blah blah blah.

This population is growing and the productive class is shrinking. I give the country 15 years, maybe 10???

Thanks for reminding us of that, Big Willy. I know...

2009-03-22T07:15:00.001-05:00

Thanks for reminding us of that, Big Willy. I know Mayor Peterson shortened the pool season at one point to save money in the parks department's budget.

Public pools aren't even open 90 days. They open M...

2009-03-22T00:18:00.000-05:00

Public pools aren't even open 90 days. They open Memorial Day weekend and close when IPS starts school. Last year they closed on August 11. I believe that's about 75 days. Take the weather into account, and, you've got something closer to 60 days. This is obviously a cost cutting plan that has a disparate impact on primarily black neighborhoods whether intentional or not.

Oh, I almost forgot to mention the lousy hours that most public pools operate. If you work until 5pm forget trying to use a public pool during the week.

I agree, Gary, on all points. First, the pools sho...

2009-03-21T22:25:00.000-05:00

I agree, Gary, on all points. First, the pools should have been fixed a long time ago and, second, they could be fixed before or after the swimming season. The pools are only open three months in Indiana. You don't need to fix them during those three months.

I also agree this is a cost cutting move, not a move taken out of necessity. I highly doubt it has a thing to do with racism, but rather an administration that has extremely bad judgment.