<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post7547814047102333158..comments</id><updated>2020-04-11T03:30:02.282-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Advance Indiana™: The People Won Out</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><author><name>Gary R. Welsh</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>11</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7247519246371249071</id><published>2008-03-16T12:49:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-03-16T12:49:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Property tax reform is incomplete without massive ...</title><content type='html'>Property tax reform is incomplete without massive local government consolidation and government spending cuts.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default/7247519246371249071'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default/7247519246371249071'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html?showComment=1205689740000#c7247519246371249071' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7547814047102333158' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/7547814047102333158' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1114923450"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="12:49 PM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-3843868119761358453</id><published>2008-03-15T17:46:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-03-15T17:46:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>As I understand it, you are entitled to a homestea...</title><content type='html'>As I understand it, you are entitled to a homestead credit equal to the amount your tax liability would exceed 1% of the gross assessed valuation of your home once the caps fully take effect in 2010. So if I own a $200,000 house and my tax liability is $2,500, I would receive a credit of $500 to reduce my liability to 2,000, or 1% of the gross assessed value.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default/3843868119761358453'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default/3843868119761358453'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html?showComment=1205621160000#c3843868119761358453' title=''/><author><name>Gary R. Welsh</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7547814047102333158' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/7547814047102333158' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1884480062"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="5:46 PM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-8287001621161622983</id><published>2008-03-15T16:33:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-03-15T16:33:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Gary,Could you shed some light...do the caps kick ...</title><content type='html'>Gary,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Could you shed some light...do the caps kick in based on the assessed value of a home after exemptions such as homestead &amp; mortgage are factored in?</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default/8287001621161622983'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default/8287001621161622983'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html?showComment=1205616780000#c8287001621161622983' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7547814047102333158' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/7547814047102333158' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1114923450"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="4:33 PM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-4876769218125701485</id><published>2008-03-15T12:54:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-03-15T12:54:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>How did we win? Spending wasn&#39;t reduced, just shif...</title><content type='html'>How did we win? &lt;BR/&gt;Spending wasn&#39;t reduced, just shifted.&lt;BR/&gt;The cap on property tax is a joke, all they have to do now is just raise the assessed value of you home and we&#39;re right back were we started.&lt;BR/&gt;Every official from the mayor on up has their own little club.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;AND WE THE PEOPLE AIN&quot;T IN IT!</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default/4876769218125701485'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default/4876769218125701485'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html?showComment=1205603640000#c4876769218125701485' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7547814047102333158' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/7547814047102333158' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1114923450"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="12:54 PM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-4815911809847214029</id><published>2008-03-15T11:32:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-03-15T11:32:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Greg Ballard? Barf!</title><content type='html'>Greg Ballard? Barf!</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default/4815911809847214029'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default/4815911809847214029'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html?showComment=1205598720000#c4815911809847214029' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7547814047102333158' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/7547814047102333158' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1114923450"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="11:32 AM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-6846755275135449045</id><published>2008-03-15T09:58:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-03-15T09:58:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Dream on if you actually think this will be approv...</title><content type='html'>Dream on if you actually think this will be approved a second time and actually make it into the Constitution.  This plan is so unworkable that they&#39;ll have to change it next year to avoid complete disaster for local municipalities.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default/6846755275135449045'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default/6846755275135449045'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html?showComment=1205593080000#c6846755275135449045' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7547814047102333158' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/7547814047102333158' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1114923450"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="9:58 AM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-5916319161577531499</id><published>2008-03-15T08:37:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-03-15T08:37:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I think your bi-partisan praise is laudable, but t...</title><content type='html'>I think your bi-partisan praise is laudable, but the result is less practical for me.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ya see, when the nutterballs wanted to amend our constitution, a sacred documen, for marriage issues, I was appalled.  I&#39;m equally angry at amending it for property tax caps.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Anyone who reads the papers of the Indiana or federal Founding Fatheers (yeah, there were no mothers, but that&#39;s another subject), will tell you these folks didn&#39;t want the Constitutions to deal with the everyday issues like tax policy.  A broad statement on free and appropriate public education, for instance, was inserted into the Indiana Constitution.  No mention was made of how to pay for it, although it&#39;s assumed it would be taxes.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Taxes which would ebb and flow with the time, thereby more able to adapt to shifting pressures and needs. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;What we really needed was about 3/4 of the state&#39;s school boards and superitenndents, to be forced out. Ditto with the legislature. A 1-2-3 Constitutional Amendment, which will surely pass overwhlmingly, doesn&#39;t really deliver the kind of answer we needed.  My bill will be stablied, but the policies behind my tax bill won&#39;t get a thorough scrutiny.  Which we still need.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;We let these irresponsible schol boards, superintendents and legislators off the hook.  Their feet were placed close to the fire but we let them out of danger.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;WIthin five years, they&#39;ll be scrambling back to find other taxes and fees to impose.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And the decision makers at the time won&#39;t have any more guts than today&#39;s.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default/5916319161577531499'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default/5916319161577531499'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html?showComment=1205588220000#c5916319161577531499' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7547814047102333158' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/7547814047102333158' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1114923450"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="8:37 AM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-2782553491512812336</id><published>2008-03-15T07:11:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-03-15T07:11:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>AI, you give the legislators too much credit.  The...</title><content type='html'>AI, you give the legislators too much credit.  They were all in the same hot water as the governor.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Bauer wisely realized that his party&#39;s slim majority (hence his speakership and personal power) would evaporate if he were the reason no tax deal materialized.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;What I find amusing is the whining from the business-lobbyist community.  The failure of the township assessors to value commercial property fairly for most of a decade, taken together with the elimination of the inventory tax, really gave commercial property owners and businesses a big break at the expense of homeowners.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;All this deal does is restore some equity to the overall system.  As the fair-tax folks never tire of pointing out, gone are the days when a taxpayer&#39;s (farm) property produced food and income for his/her family.  Yet commercial property is an &quot;input&quot; into producing goods and services and it has a clear value for such purposes.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The main thing this whole mess points out is that the Indiana Constitution is long overdue for a re-write, not just tinkering around the edges.  The structure of local and state government needs an overhaul.  Likewise with the whole structure of state and local taxation and spending.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default/2782553491512812336'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default/2782553491512812336'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html?showComment=1205583060000#c2782553491512812336' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7547814047102333158' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/7547814047102333158' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1114923450"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="7:11 AM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-6034150239681166555</id><published>2008-03-15T00:33:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-03-15T00:33:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Good luck on that one, vox populi. The Carson poli...</title><content type='html'>Good luck on that one, vox populi. The Carson political machine typically decapitates anybody who dares to challenge them. We&#39;ll see what David and Woody look like in 60 days.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default/6034150239681166555'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default/6034150239681166555'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html?showComment=1205559180000#c6034150239681166555' title=''/><author><name>Gary R. Welsh</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7547814047102333158' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/7547814047102333158' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1884480062"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="12:33 AM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7931906972525882387</id><published>2008-03-14T22:18:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-03-14T22:18:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I have to say I look forward to replacing Mayor Ba...</title><content type='html'>I have to say I look forward to replacing Mayor Ballard in 2011.  Part of me feels that David Orentlicher might be running for Congress to boost his name recognition for a city-wide run.  He knows that fighting the Carson Machine will be difficult.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I am very happy though that a property tax deal was reached.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default/7931906972525882387'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default/7931906972525882387'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html?showComment=1205551080000#c7931906972525882387' title=''/><author><name>Vox Populi</name><uri>https://www.blogger.com/profile/09174941325997674801</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='26' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__v70B-bp_lY/SNs4HgNZNSI/AAAAAAAAAA8/vxsda_y33bY/S220/Debs.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7547814047102333158' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/7547814047102333158' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-945401945"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="10:18 PM GMT-5"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7428069369814962282</id><published>2008-03-14T20:54:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-03-14T20:54:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Amen my man!  Couldn&#39;t have said it better if I tr...</title><content type='html'>Amen my man!  Couldn&#39;t have said it better if I tried.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default/7428069369814962282'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/7547814047102333158/comments/default/7428069369814962282'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html?showComment=1205546040000#c7428069369814962282' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='https://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/03/people-won-out.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-7547814047102333158' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/12703782/posts/default/7547814047102333158' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1114923450"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="8:54 PM GMT-5"/></entry></feed>