Comments on Advance Indiana™: Electric Car Website Not Too Keen On Blue Indy

The City will share in 25% of the revenues after I...

2015-09-09T20:29:14.781-05:00

The City will share in 25% of the revenues after IPL is repaid the millions it is spending on utility improvements to install the charging stations all over town and after Blue Indy recoups 100% of its net cumulative investment, which it says exceeds $42 million. In reality, the City will recoup nothing because we have to reimburse ParkIndy for all of the parking revenues it will lose from the meter parking spaces it has lost because of Blue Indy, along with the taxes and fees the City is forgiving Blue Indy along the way.

What does the city get for their $6.000,000 invest...

2015-09-09T20:06:36.910-05:00

What does the city get for their $6.000,000 investment?
Are we making any money on the deal? Please respond.

Here's an article on the inorganic stupidity, ...

2015-09-09T07:53:04.619-05:00

Here's an article on the inorganic stupidity, which degrades into this environment or culture of surreal statism. When the consumptive sector / government employees outnumber the provider / productive sector; the organic trajectory is failure. Statism is not sustainable & their construction of Legoland is among their final acts reminiscent of Rome: http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/21955000-12329000-government-employees-outnumber-manufacturing

Also... If you'd like some first hand experien...

2015-09-08T13:38:44.587-05:00

Also... If you'd like some first hand experience using a privately owned electric car at a BlueIndy station, I am happy to volunteer the use of my Nissan Leaf for your experimentation.

Interesting tidbits of information: (1) BlueIndy ...

2015-09-08T13:36:18.395-05:00

Interesting tidbits of information:

(1) BlueIndy Cars have a Tom Wood license plate holder on the back of the cars. I asked about this and was told Tom Wood is the local service center for these Bollore electric cars.

(2) BlueIndy is bizarrely collecting sales tax on private EV charging memberships by the hour. So, you pay $2 an hour to park and your bill says $2.14. This strikes me as wrong. I am currently seeking clarification from the Indiana DOR because while electricity is considered Tangible Personal Property in Indiana and therefore subject to sales tax, my general understanding is that only publically regulated utilities may sell electricity in Indiana. There may be an exception for electric co-op's. But, there are no exceptions for electric vehicle charging stations. So, in Indiana, they can only charge by increments of time or a flare rate, not by the kWh. So, all that to say, BlueIndy should not be collecting sales tax on parking / charging a private electric vehicle at BlueIndy stations.

(3) Your comment about BlueIndy having a contract with the city that reimburses them for taxes on the rental of their cars sounds crazy (I say this in a jokey-way, in a lighthearted tone). Can you please provide more information including the source of this information. It seems to me that if I rent a BlueIndy Car, for $8, and I pay the $1.36 in taxes (17% of $8), then I should get that amount refunded to me. What you're essentially suggesting is that BlueIndy collects the $1.36 from me and hands it over to the Indiana Department of Revenue. Then, through contractual language in their deal with the City of Indianapolis, the City then, using my income tax dollars, gives $1.36 back to BlueIndy, even though it's simply a pass through tax that the private BlueIndy company never had to pay to begin with? If this is your assertion, please back it up with some stone cold facts so I can help you raise hell about it. :)

Criminal Enterprise Rental Car- "We'll pi...

2015-09-07T08:31:53.434-05:00

Criminal Enterprise Rental Car- "We'll pick your pocket"

Look at the landscape of important questions about...

2015-09-06T05:03:27.805-05:00

Look at the landscape of important questions about the illegal Ballard Blue Indy rental car business and charging stations that City Councilors apparently had neither the logic skills nor the spines to conceive and to pursue.

Will Indianapolis citizen voters see another complete capitulation by a Council at the ready to make the illegal legal?... to cavalierly toss away what we've been informed and informed often by the Chamber's own General Counsel breaks civil and criminal laws?... to tell us, in effect, 'we the people' have to obey the laws but the Councilors and their mayor and his underlings and "business associates" do not?

Will these charging stations remain and once again will we the people will turn to each other shaking heads in disgust and say, "I Told You So"...?

Oh, and a few respectful words to the Councilor who snidely remarked to me about the posting times concerned citizens like me post commentary on Mr. Welsh's Advance Indiana: Sensible, truthful, insightful commentary at 2:00 am is just as valid as the same being posted at 2:00 pm; who can sleep solidly through the night with all the damage being done to the concept of a system of laws rather than a system of "men"?

There was a transfer from the manufacturer to Blue...

2015-09-05T17:35:44.617-05:00

There was a transfer from the manufacturer to BlueIndy. Is the manufacturer a registered manufacturer or dealer in Indiana or any state? If not, how did the transfer occur under Indiana law?

The transfer from Bollore to BlueIndy was taxable, creates a title, requires a certificate of origin, a BMV/ILEA inspection, a license plate, excise tax and ongoing state fees.

How did the cars clear Customs? How did the State grant titling and registration?

This bomb lands at the feet of Pence more than Ballard. Without the complicity of Pence's BMV, these cars never turn a wheel on an Indiana street.

Why is Pence cooperating? Why is Pence breaking Indiana law for the benefit of Ballard?

The Blue cars are made by an Italian manufacturer ...

2015-09-05T16:55:55.093-05:00

The Blue cars are made by an Italian manufacturer for Bollore. No American dealer was involved in the transaction. They are being imported specifically for this car sharing service. The original cars were allowed to be brought into the country for demonstration purposes only since the cars had not been approved for use on American highways by the federal Highway and Traffic Safety Administration. I don't know whether they've subsequently been approved for use. The original demos could only be driven if a Blue Indy representative was present in the vehicle while it was being driven for demonstration purposes only.

Since BlueIndy purchased the vehicles from Bollore...

2015-09-05T16:10:03.395-05:00

Since BlueIndy purchased the vehicles from Bollore, was Indiana sales tax properly collected?

If the vehicles were purchased in Indiana, what dealer was used?

Were title fees and registration collected by the state?

Were certificates of origin properly collected by the State?

Were the vehicles inspected by the State prior to titling and registration?

Gary, How did the Bollore cars clear customs? Jus...

2015-09-05T15:31:28.616-05:00

Gary,

How did the Bollore cars clear customs? Just because a car arrives at a dock doesn't mean it gets in. There are many overseas cars American collectors would love to have, but they can't get them to clear Customs. I don't believe the Bollore car is NHTSA approved, as that approval is quite extensive, so I don't know how the Bollore cars got past the pier.

I know I can't order a Bollore and pick it up in New Orleans.

What Port of Entry did the Bollore cars use? Who signed off on their Customs entry? If you do some FOIA, you might find the U.S. Government is behind this BlueIndy initiative.

Wow. How any of our Councilors can continue to hol...

2015-09-05T14:45:39.857-05:00

Wow. How any of our Councilors can continue to hold their heads high in public with yet more bad news about the illegal Ballard Rental Car Business they allowed and/or will not stop is beyond me. If I have to hear one more time "we are helpless" or "we were helpless" I am going to wretch. They are not helpless in cashing their paychecks, are they?

Whatever we pay our City County Councilors it is just too damn much. Every day seems to bring more news of the disaster known as The Illegal Greg Ballard's Blue Indy battery powered rental car business that our impotent Council allowed to proceed. With charging stations of unknown safety right at your front door, with the loss of control of our own neighborhoods, with the double speak from the mouths of Democrat and Republican Councilors on the issue, and the fact that Blue Indy coal fueled cars can have a large net carbon footprint more so than petroleum fueled vehicles, is it any wonder respect for politicians is below that of a snake oil barker (my sincere apologies to snake oil barkers)?

And now these Councilors are trying to (again) use "public safety" and their cry for more police as a cover and to change the subject hoping we the people will forget their incompetence, their ineffectiveness, and their subservience to a lawless emperor mayor. I have news... we will not forget your duplicity and dishonesty and apparent reluctance to perform your jobs. As far as I am concerned as a registered voter, they all have ED... Electile Dysfunction... when I go to vote, if I go to vote.

It is no longer the case that only a governor 'must go', but rather when it comes to Indy's corrupt mayor, Indy's mayoral candidates served up by both ruling political class machines, and the CC Council politicians, I say "They ALL Must Go!"

Hall said his excitement further began to evaporat...

2015-09-05T14:14:17.244-05:00

Hall said his excitement further began to evaporate when his trainer told him to expect people to yell at you on the phone, the importance of keeping your anger in check and to avoid interacting with members of the public who don't support Blue Indy.

What is it with Indy? Avoid interacting with members of the public who don't support Blue Indy? This is so third grade. Rah, Indy.

This was my exact question -- what happens when yo...

2015-09-05T13:32:43.601-05:00

This was my exact question -- what happens when you want to return a car to a kiosk/charge station and they're all full. Something that the Hack never addresses in her propoganda advertorial. This has circus written all over it.

This is a major liability foisted on Indianapolis ...

2015-09-05T12:28:44.886-05:00

This is a major liability foisted on Indianapolis taxpayers; government misbehaving in the free market they don't understand. Insurance companies representing other drivers won't stop at Blue Indy subscribers... Enter again taxpayers, it will be obvious what bad theater this is.