tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post8453516699985276699..comments2020-04-11T03:30:02.282-05:00Gary R. Welshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-5058109346646716322007-09-25T19:12:00.000-05:002007-09-25T19:12:00.000-05:00People don't tend to think of public restrooms, or any bathroom for that matter, in the religious sense. However, public "baths" were originally developed because of the religious significance of waters ability to wash away evil spirits.<BR/><BR/>Some religions don't believe in birth control, and we have a lot of bathrooms with changing tables. Are our public institutions promoting families? <BR/><BR/>You could ban Muslims from washing their feet in sinks. Good luck enforcing that! The primary concerns is over hygiene. I don't think anyone was sitting around one day and thought, "I feel like getting criticized today. I wonder how can we make it look like we are promoting one religion over another."<BR/><BR/>Hey, since public restrooms usually accommodate lots of people of the same sex at one time, maybe our public institutions are also promoting homosexuality? (ahem, Senator Craig).Eric Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16969117111005969501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-27767721689476936202007-09-19T12:59:00.000-05:002007-09-19T12:59:00.000-05:00<I>At most, there would be one in the men's restroom and another in the women's . . .</I><BR/><BR/>How does the author know this?<BR/><BR/>How is 1 sink sufficient for the 100 cab drivers who each need to wash their feet numerous times per day?<BR/><BR/>After the first is installed the muslim drivers will simply order the airport admin to install additional baths.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-31085392950713914992007-09-17T18:35:00.000-05:002007-09-17T18:35:00.000-05:00I'm guessing those sinks will be the perfect height for me to piss in when all the urinals are taken...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-44565215704286004462007-09-17T13:53:00.000-05:002007-09-17T13:53:00.000-05:00The interesting part of this story will be the first time someone is arrested for pouring a soda into the footsink under whatever hate crime legislation is on the books.<BR/><BR/>The interdenominational chapel is skirting close to the line, but expending public funds in order to help members of ONE specific religion perform religious rituals in a public restroom is crossing the line.<BR/><BR/>It is NOT the responsibility of a secular state to cater to anyone's sense of "piety".<BR/><BR/>There is a "give an inch, give a mile" argument that is invoked whenever Jesus stuff seeps into High School graduations. If you make the airport a de facto haven for conservative Islam, what will be the next demand made? Perhaps the cab drivers not only will refuse to pick up blind passengers with dogs, maybe they'll refuse service to homosexuals (you do realize that Islam in its most strict sense calls for the execution of gays). <BR/><BR/>Ideally, the example of the airport will be brought up next time Dan Carpenter or Sheila Kennedy complain that Christmas trees make them religiously uncomfortable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-45581789699061041682007-09-17T13:41:00.000-05:002007-09-17T13:41:00.000-05:00If that is the worst thing that is happening at your airport bathrooms, what is the problem?<BR/>At least they arent gay-adulterous Horny Republican Senators looking for a little buggery between "Lay-overs"(!!!)<BR/>but on another note- do we know where these Muslims are from? Have they been thoroughly checked out to make sure they arent ticking Al-Qaeda time-bombs?<BR/><BR/>I suppose we will just have to make a bunch of new laws, along the lines of the ADA laws- Or let them find other jobs, if this religious nuttery of all denominations continues.David C Roachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03001418779103813547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-90586102562831995052007-09-17T07:37:00.000-05:002007-09-17T07:37:00.000-05:00Clean is good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-62994290907817961202007-09-17T07:03:00.000-05:002007-09-17T07:03:00.000-05:00AdvanceIndiana should also do some postings about "undocumented workers" - it would be interesting to see the same folk commenting here talking about that subject too! It's such a Republican issue...Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/14214029150233485312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-83956394637903591722007-09-17T05:21:00.000-05:002007-09-17T05:21:00.000-05:00Jason, I dont call them hypocrites...I call them hate filled bigotsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-21038623973554324512007-09-16T22:03:00.000-05:002007-09-16T22:03:00.000-05:00I'm right behind when in rome. If it was really a safety or public health issue they would ban feetwashing in public restrooms. Yet another reason the ACLU has no credibility. Footsinks for everyone? Come on, everyone I know wears shoes and even the people who wear sandals don't stop to wash their feet during the day.<BR/><BR/>This is government catering to religion. I wouldn't have a problem with it if it didn't seem like everybody who is always against it was in favor of this. You call people against the footbaths hypocrites? I say people in favor of the footbath are hypocrites.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-73423868340954987612007-09-16T21:29:00.000-05:002007-09-16T21:29:00.000-05:00Prayer in school -- ABSOLUTELY NOT!<BR/><BR/>Pledge of Allegiance (under God) in school -- ABSOLUTELY NOT!<BR/><BR/>Prayer in Statehouse -- ABSOLUTELY NOT!<BR/><BR/>Saying “Have a Blessed Day” when you end a telephone call – ABSOLUTELY NOT!<BR/><BR/>10 Commandments hanging in government buildings -- ABSOLUTELY NOT!<BR/><BR/>Wise men/Mary/baby Jesus Creech on lawn during Christmas -- ABSOLUTELY NOT!<BR/><BR/>Saying “Merry Christmas” or Christmas Holiday in school -- ABSOLUTELY NOT!<BR/><BR/>Crosses on buildings/public land/state seals, etc. -- ABSOLUTELY NOT!<BR/><BR/>In God We Trust on our money -- ABSOLUTELY NOT!<BR/><BR/>And the list goes on and on…<BR/><BR/>SPECIAL SINKS JUST FOR MUSLIMS TO PRACTICE THEIR RELIGION -- HELL, YES!!<BR/><BR/>This is what happens when liberals/democrats are elected to run this country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-88106014360197822122007-09-16T19:44:00.000-05:002007-09-16T19:44:00.000-05:00The ACLU isn't suing because the religion in question isn't Christianity. They aren't called the "Anti-Christian Litigation Unit" for nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-39373313406270691142007-09-16T18:05:00.000-05:002007-09-16T18:05:00.000-05:00As long as the Muslim cabbies will allow blind people with dogs in their cars (like they DON'T in Minneapolis-St. Paul) who cares where they wash their feet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-69813672192723306352007-09-16T17:23:00.000-05:002007-09-16T17:23:00.000-05:00How about banning the cleansing of feet in public sinks, just like we ban no barefeet and shirtless people in restaurants. Restrooms are for using to toilet and washing your hands--not for praying, hanging out or any other non-sense. <BR/><BR/>Or, put a Bible in each chair at the airport, on the airplanes and in each taxi for us Christians who are traveling on Sunday or religious holidays.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-51549559030534694492007-09-16T16:45:00.000-05:002007-09-16T16:45:00.000-05:00It appears someone of you don't want to understand what is happening around the world and in this country. Eventually, we will all be washing our feet, when the World, as Al Qaeda wants, is totally under Islamic rule.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-64005106445145143212007-09-16T16:00:00.000-05:002007-09-16T16:00:00.000-05:00Listen, there is no one more in favor of church-state separation than I am. But seems like a purely practical issues. If there are an average of 250 foot washes per day (just guesstimating) in one bathroom at the airport (used by cabbies) for WHATEVER reason, and maybe one or two a day in the others (used by travelers and staff), then I have no problem with them installing a footbath to prevent footwashing in the regular sinks and the attendant risks- and this likely could be a liability risk w. water on the floor type issues. I see no reason whatsoever that the airporr should waste thousands of dollars installing footbaths in all the bathrooms if they wouldn't be used there. These seems totally sensible to me. Nothing is inherently promoting religion by having a sink. It's purely a reality- people wash their feet in one bathroom all day long, put in a footbath.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-82893457946453978252007-09-16T15:09:00.000-05:002007-09-16T15:09:00.000-05:00Wow, some of the comments in here are just ignorant. I'm looking at you, 11:09.<BR/><BR/>This is a small expense and it doesn't hurt anyone, so I don't get why everybody is making such a big deal over it.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04396326144115748778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-29619079697960212132007-09-16T14:59:00.000-05:002007-09-16T14:59:00.000-05:00But nothing for the Japanese businessmen who like to smoke.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-35915497681479608522007-09-16T14:43:00.000-05:002007-09-16T14:43:00.000-05:00I dont recall seeing any menorahs when I was there.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-28515788256319042482007-09-16T13:36:00.000-05:002007-09-16T13:36:00.000-05:00You're right, Gary. The airport chapel is small, and inter-denominational.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-54982586198855977262007-09-16T12:49:00.000-05:002007-09-16T12:49:00.000-05:00I've never been in the airport's "chapel", but these places for prayer in public buildings are typically not specific to any one religion. They could be used by Jews, Christians and Muslims alike.Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-88121889341821968142007-09-16T11:17:00.000-05:002007-09-16T11:17:00.000-05:00I think that under the O'Connor's non-endorsement test this would clearly meet the standard because whether it is "promoting" a particular religion has to be viewed by a local, informed member of the community (ie, not any American, but an Indianapolis resident) and I don't think that anyone in Indy would view this action as a government endorsement of Islam. Similar to why local municipalities can put up Menorahs under "diversity celebration"- no one honestly thinks that majority Christian communities are actually suggesting Judaism be the official or preferred religion.<BR/><BR/>I also think that this could be viewed as a free expression of religion issue and, as such, reasonable accomodation for religious beliefs is actually required. The burden is on the government as to why they cannot accomodate a particular religious expression. Seems pretty clear cut to me. I'll let any first amendment lawyers correct me if I've got it wrong though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-28516342674238690542007-09-16T11:09:00.000-05:002007-09-16T11:09:00.000-05:00I'll vote for it if they put prayer back in the schools and the 10 comandments back in the statehouses. The government thinks if they sympathize with the muslims then maybe osoma will leave us alone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-79575926926090742472007-09-16T10:24:00.000-05:002007-09-16T10:24:00.000-05:00that is only 100 Muslims at the airport ...those of us who actually use taxis know that there are many more....they do a good job which is a dangerous job and I have had no problem at all. They are courteous and honest......I use taxis almost daily.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-47811969041984772042007-09-16T10:22:00.000-05:002007-09-16T10:22:00.000-05:00The airport maintains a chapel for Christians and a chaplain.....I must assume that anonymous 9:12 and anonymous 9:29 want the chapel shut down and the chaplain removed from his job....or do they think that separation of church and state only applies to Muslims.....bigotry is alive and well in Indy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-6113473669013800162007-09-16T10:21:00.000-05:002007-09-16T10:21:00.000-05:00100 Muslim taxi drivers??? In Indianapolis???<BR/>Who would have thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com