Comments on Advance Indiana™: Former Peterson Official Endorses Ballard

$21 million? Rose-colored glasses?Facts, pal. Fa...

2007-09-21T19:31:00.000-05:00

$21 million?

Rose-colored glasses?

Facts, pal. Facts.

Not random posts at IndyU--facts.

5:03, Do you remember the $21 million dollar up-fr...

2007-09-21T06:09:00.000-05:00

5:03, Do you remember the $21 million dollar up-front increase?

How about the fact that those upper management employees you're counting on to be gone, wont be for as long as they draw breath (former MCSD unqualified/untrained political hacks)?

You need to wake up and refocus your rose colored lens.

8:40, the 2007 budget refles a savings of over $2....

2007-09-21T05:03:00.000-05:00

8:40, the 2007 budget refles a savings of over $2.8 million, perhaps even more...you really need to read before you type the same old drivel.

The savings will increase as duplicate command structures are eliminated. It's still shaking out.

Nobody said anything about fire overtime, or other overtime. Try to focus.

With all respect to 6:08pm how the merger can be d...

2007-09-20T20:40:00.000-05:00

With all respect to 6:08pm how the merger can be deemed a success escapes me. The major savings originally in the merger were due to attrition of police and firemen, reduction of overtime and the elimination of social security for county officers.

So on one hand the mayor says we are saving money by cutting police and on the other hand states we need to hire more police.

The county officers voted overwhelming to keep their social security so now IPD officers can make a case to receive social security due to equity concerns.

As to overtime my guess is that since there are now fewer officers on the street that there is more overtime rather than less.

With respect to equity issues pay scales and benefits will be determined by which ever department has the better salaries or the better benefits. So rather than lowering costs those costs also increase.

By what measure is the merger a success?

Considering the Indianapolis Airport Authority is ...

2007-09-20T18:10:00.000-05:00

Considering the Indianapolis Airport Authority is overseen by Mayor McCheese crony, Lacy Johnson, Turner did the right thing.

Bob Turner, a man with integrity. How refreshing!

Robert voted D and R during his career, according ...

2007-09-20T18:08:00.000-05:00

Robert voted D and R during his career, according to him; his politics, frankly, matter not to me.

He held the Public Safety Director's job, which is in itself a throw-away job. It's duplicitous and wasteful. It's another layer of government that's expensive.

I know Bob. He's an honorable man. He had an honest difference of opinion and I respect that. His endorsement may help Ballard--I honestly don't know and don't care. But if it follows the FOP endorsement strategy, it's piddle.

Let's eliminate the PS Director's job. It's never been worth a cup of warm spit anyway. While we're at it, why not elimnnate Barker's job? We have a CEO of law enforcement--the elected sheriff.

And to all who think the merger is somehow going to go away--get over it. It'll never happen. The savings for this merger will only increase as time goes on. Dramatically.

Here's a suggestion for the IndyU anti-merger crowd: consider the bigger picture. Bart will not always be mayor, altho he will win Nov. 6. And Frank's term as sheriff ends soon enough.

Someone else will have a chance to run a streamlined more efficient IMPD. Count on it. And the tough work on putting the two departments together, will already have been done.

Hey Anonymous 2:42:Why don't you get your facts st...

2007-09-20T15:12:00.000-05:00

Hey Anonymous 2:42:

Why don't you get your facts straight. You stated: " 2) He wasn't a very good public safety director, which is why the Mayor threw him out on his ass."

First off, your boy Peterson did not throw Turner out on his ass. He resigned. Secondly, he did do a good job. How do I know he did a good job? Because Bart's Deputy Mayor Campbell said so.

In an interview with Channel 13 on Oct. 6, 2006: Campbell said Turner did a great job and was a police officer first and foremost, but the next public safety director will have more experience with homeland security issues.

Also, In a February 28th resignation letter to Mayor Peterson, Turner wrote, "You and I have a fundamental difference of opinion...by which effective public safety services may be delivered to our citizens."

But the resignation was pushed aside when the mayor intervened. Weeks later, Turner was offered the airport deal but turned it down. His attorney Ginny Maxwell explained why.

"He didn't understand it was this way or the highway," Maxwell said.

13 Investigates asked Deputy Mayor Campbell: "Some folks say this is was a throw-away job to buy cooperation with this administration. What's your response to that?"

"Absolutely not," Campbell replied. "This was an offer from the mayor from the airport to help out someone who we thought had done a really good job."

So take all that info back your dem buddies and try your spin again!

Brian

Turner didn't, wouldn't "play ball" with Peterson,...

2007-09-20T15:02:00.000-05:00

Turner didn't, wouldn't "play ball" with Peterson, and the council stupidity and cronyisim. No wonder he is vilified by their supporters.

No wonder he is just what IMPD and IFD need to bring some sanity back to public safety. And IMPD back to the Mayor's/Public safety Director's office.

Looks likely there will be protestors outside the ...

2007-09-20T14:59:00.000-05:00

Looks likely there will be protestors outside the democratic fundraiser on October 3rd. They will photograph every person who attends the fundraiser which targeted only minority business owners.Overheard them today at lunchtime. I heard it said they will issue press releases soon.
The questions is will they report any drunks who get behind the wheel and drive.

Turner said, "I reserve the right to support the c...

2007-09-20T14:49:00.000-05:00

Turner said, "I reserve the right to support the candidate of my choice and will freely and openly do so notwithstanding the childish personal attacks as has become the custom of the current city and police administrations!"

You now see what he was talking about from the anonymous comments from 12:56 and 2:42. These Peterson folks will seek to smear and destroy anyone who speaks out against the mayor.

Nope. 2:34 is another Ballard lackey. This means ...

2007-09-20T14:42:00.000-05:00

Nope. 2:34 is another Ballard lackey. This means absolutely nothing. The public doesn't know Bob Turner and if they did, they would know two things.

1) He's a republican.
2) He wasn't a very good public safety director, which is why the Mayor threw him out on his ass.

The only thing smelling like "big shit" is 12:56PM...

2007-09-20T14:34:00.000-05:00

The only thing smelling like "big shit" is 12:56PM's colossal ignorance of Turner.

Democrat Bob Turner, while a Patrol Officer under the regimes of Republican Mayors Lugar and Goldsmith, filed a federal lawsuit against the city and dept alleging discrimination in hiring and promotion of minorities within the ranks. This led to the 1975 Consent decree under which this cities Public Safety entities both police and fire have operated under, since that time.

Mayor Peterson appointed Bob Turner. Turner, upon seeing the lies and graft associated with the police merger, left. A 6 figure salary to shush him with a do-nothing job didnt work. The man has balls that clang when he walks, and he has forged major ties within the community, including the so-called 'black Democratic voting block', both as a police officer and former Public Safety Director.

This is HUGE for Ballard, and not looking good for Peterson.

Big shit; a republican endorsing a republican.

2007-09-20T12:56:00.000-05:00

Big shit; a republican endorsing a republican.