Comments on Advance Indiana™: Wishard Referendum Easily Approved In Low Voter Turnout Election

They will not need more money. They have built ...

2009-11-04T14:33:07.178-05:00

They will not need more money.

They have built in at least $200 million more into the budget than is required to build a new 300 bed hospital based upon comparable hospital construction projects.

It will be interesting to see if they announce that they have completed the project significantly under budget, or if they spend the extra $200+ million and still say they met budget projections.

Either way the Star will declare victory out of a lack of business acumen or for political brown nosing points.

The Indianapolis Business Journal is the only paper in town that has knowledgeable business reporters that have the fortitude to explain this to the public as a method of containing costs and saving taxpayers dollars.

From an 1800s Supreme Court case when Maryland sue...

2009-11-04T13:21:13.034-05:00

From an 1800s Supreme Court case when Maryland sued the federal government, arguing that the federal government were taxing the states on revenues the states were earning the Supreme Court ruled that "the ability to tax is the ability to destroy"

Just last August, Hagerman moved it's offices ...

2009-11-04T11:49:24.582-05:00

Just last August, Hagerman moved it's offices from Castleton to Fishers. The smart ones are the ones moving out of Marion County, I guess.

Yup, but Marion Co. is still where the money is at, so the people that live there are going to be the ones that get parted with more of their money to make a select few elites and insiders rich....even if those folks don't even live in Indy.

"When the people find that they can vote them...

2009-11-04T10:24:36.503-05:00

"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic."

"The reason propoganda succeeds, is due to the laziness of people."

I am not completely sure of the origin of these quotes, but the Wishard Referendum has caused me to salute the wisdom of Senator Evan Bayh, who at an economic forum answered my question concerning the wisdom of the initiative and referendum process, by answering that the trouble with this is that certain special interests can dominate the discussion about the impact of same. Even the emphatic wording of this referendum yesterday caused me to momentarily feel Scrooge-like, backward, when I voted no.

Paul, they have to complete, or nearly complete, c...

2009-11-04T09:47:07.441-05:00

Paul, they have to complete, or nearly complete, construction before suddenly discovering they need more money. That's the traditional pattern. Then a year to get it into the tax bills.

Just last August, Hagerman moved it's offices ...

2009-11-04T09:44:59.061-05:00

Just last August, Hagerman moved it's offices from Castleton to Fishers. The smart ones are the ones moving out of Marion County, I guess.

You folks will be interested in hearing this. The ...

2009-11-04T08:05:38.384-05:00

You folks will be interested in hearing this. The government affairs person who headed up the approval of the Wishard referendum for the Greater Indianapolis Chamber of Commerce has just been hired by Hagerman Construction. These folks have already divided up the contracts on this project before the public bidding has taken place. Whooops!

I voted "No" on both accounts...since I ...

2009-11-04T06:52:01.962-05:00

I voted "No" on both accounts...since I live in Perry Township. My wife felt the local media did not explain it enough....I sent her to your website AI to explain it in details. I keep telling her not to watch to local news for her source. They will not give you the real story!

The voters I ran across working the polls were sur...

2009-11-04T06:51:37.605-05:00

The voters I ran across working the polls were surprised to find only the public question on the ballot, or they were believing that unless this was approved Wishard would close. As I told Gary earlier the Dems set up a phone bank to drum up yes votes.

With no organized opposition this thing didn't stand a chance.

DI, 2014? I'd move that up 2 years at least.

2009-11-03T23:19:38.489-05:00

DI, 2014? I'd move that up 2 years at least.

When I voted this morning, I assumed that the &quo...

2009-11-03T21:34:08.627-05:00

When I voted this morning, I assumed that the "NO" votes would be 20% or less of the total vote - a landslide. How could it be anything else, with the combination of propaganda machine and "get the vote" out tactics used? The funny thing is I talked to a few people who said that did not know enough about the Wishard proposal to make a decision so they did not vote.

I guess the only thing left will be to try and fin...

2009-11-03T20:42:04.768-05:00

I guess the only thing left will be to try and find some solace knowing 'I told you so' when reality hits in a few years. I put it at 2014 when the first property tax bill rings up a line item for Wishard.

Is the election board counting the votes today or ...

2009-11-03T20:35:52.315-05:00

Is the election board counting the votes today or tomorrow........8;35 no results posted.