Comments on Advance Indiana™: Airport Not Sure About Sinks For Muslims

And, Wilson, as I pointed out, you don't care one...

2007-09-23T16:00:00.000-05:00

And, Wilson, as I pointed out, you don't care one bit about Jews and their representation in Congress. For you, the issue of Jews and the Republican party is a political one, not a matter of representation.

And, for the record, I have listed several individuals of the Jewish faith who have been elected by Republicans. Apparently, that doesn't matter to you either.

If you truly cared about Jews, that would be one thing. However, your hollow questions bely the fact that you do NOT care about them - rather, you use Jews to advance your political position, and to me, that's anti-Semitism. Jews are fine when you can use them for your own purposes, but when you're done, cast them aside (just as the Democrat party did to Joe Lieberman in 2006.)

And, of course, I note that you didn't deny your anti-Semitism. So, thank you for that.

Oh, by the way, please tell me what the Democrat party has done for Jews in the past, say, 50 years. I mean, if the Democrat party cares so much about them, what have they done for them? Please, tell me. This ought to be interesting. Of course, to you, it's probably not a matter of what they have done - rather, a matter of electing Jews to office.

Hypocrite.

AR

Anti-semitism? Angry Republican, you are in the po...

2007-09-23T15:39:00.000-05:00

Anti-semitism? Angry Republican, you are in the political party very noticeably deficient in Jewish Congresspeople (not to mention the total absence of any Black Republicans whatsoever in Congress)

As for Wilson - sorry, friend, but your attempt to...

2007-09-23T11:53:00.000-05:00

As for Wilson - sorry, friend, but your attempt to shame Republicans into feeling guilty about Jews won't work.

Why don't you peddle your anti-semitism elsewhere?

AR

Oopps - a correction to my last post. It should h...

2007-09-23T11:51:00.001-05:00

Oopps - a correction to my last post. It should have said that former Senator COHEN, not former Senator Coleman.

AR

To 7:54:Stephen Goldsmith isn't Jewish? Funny.htt...

2007-09-23T11:51:00.000-05:00

To 7:54:

Stephen Goldsmith isn't Jewish? Funny.

http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles/people/g/goldsmith_stephen/goldsmith.html

And of course, as I posted, both Senators Specter and Coleman are Jewish. Former Senator Coleman is actually 1/2 Jewish.

As for Javits and Goldwater, yes, that was at a time before the party was hijacked by conservative, southern Democrats fleeing their own party to hang onto states rights.

AR

Come on Wilson, that really isn't very fair. The j...

2007-09-23T11:31:00.000-05:00

Come on Wilson, that really isn't very fair. The jewish population in America is about the same percentage as Mormons. Yet, there are only 16 Mormons in Congress and only 4 of them are Democrats (Harry Reid being the most prominent). That means 12 are Rs. That doesn't mean Democrats have something against Mormons (in fact most polling shows that most opposition comes from Christian Fundamentalists- not exactly D voters in general). Rs support jewish candidates all the time, that doesn't mean they always win and sometimes they do, but as Ds with significant R votes as well.

Wilson, why don't you just enjoy tour retired life...

2007-09-23T11:25:00.000-05:00

Wilson, why don't you just enjoy tour retired life, sit back read your AARP magazine and sip some more Kool-ade?????

I repeat my question: what do Republicans have aga...

2007-09-23T11:04:00.000-05:00

I repeat my question: what do Republicans have against Jews? Only three Jewish Republicans in a Congress of 535 people ... tsk, tsk, tsk

Joseph Lieberman (Connecticut-D) Orthodox Judaism
Barbara Boxer (Calif-D) Jewish
Dianne Feinstein (Calif-D) Jewish
Carl Levin (Michigan-D) Jewish
Norm Coleman (Minnesota-R) Jewish
Frank Lautenberg (New Jersey-D) Jewish
Charles Schumer (New York-D) Jewish
Ron Wyden (Oregon-D) Jewish
Arlen Specter (Penn-R) Jewish
Russell Feingold (Wisconsin-D) Jewish
Herb Kohl (Wisconsin-D) Jewish

Tom Lantos, D Jewish
Brad Sherman, D Jewish
Howard Berman, D Jewish
Adam Schiff, D Jewish
Henry Waxman, D Jewish
Jane Harman, D Jewish
Bob Filner, D Jewish
Susan Davis, D Jewish
Robert Wexler, D Jewish
Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D Jewish
Rahm Emanuel, D Jewish
Janice Schakowsky, D Jewish
Benjamin Cardin, D Jewish
Barney Frank, D Jewish
Sander Levin, D Jewish
Shelley Berkley, D Jewish
Steven Rothman, D Jewish
Steven Israel, D Jewish
Gary Ackerman, D Jewish
Jerrold Nadler, D Jewish
Anthony Weiner, D Jewish
Eliot Engel, D Jewish
Nita Lowey, D Jewish
Allyson Schwartz, D Jewish
Bernard Sanders, Ind. Jewish
Eric Cantor, R Jewish

I support clean. Reject bigots and hate.

2007-09-23T10:58:00.000-05:00

I support clean. Reject bigots and hate.

Umm, 7:54 AM, I don't know where you are getting y...

2007-09-23T08:29:00.000-05:00

Umm, 7:54 AM, I don't know where you are getting your facts, but they aren't correct. Arlen Specter most certainly is jewish. So is Norm Coleman. From an interview with United Jewish Communities:

Labgold: On a personal note, could you share with our readers why you chose public service as your career path?

Coleman: It is a reflection of my faith and my family. I grew up in a family where we talked about politics and public service. We are a community that understands the importance of freedom. It is a part of our tradition. We have celebrated the Passover tradition for over five thousand years. That translates into working for freedom and opportunity. We have different paths in life, and for me public service has been the path I have always wanted to pursue. It is a reflection of mom and dad, grandmas and grandpas, and my faith. I am humbled to have the opportunity to serve. We have a tradition of mitzvot, a tradition of tzedakah. I remember the little blue box in the house as a kid from planting trees in Israel. Giving back is part of who we are, and that is who I have become and who I am.

to AR at 8:12....you are wrong on several accounts...

2007-09-23T07:54:00.000-05:00

to AR at 8:12....you are wrong on several accounts. [1] In naming Jacob Javits and Barry Goldwater, you are going back decades when the GOP was a moderate diverse party ..unlike the mess it is today. They have both been dead for years. [2] Stephen Goldsmith was not Jewish, he was Methodist. [3]Arlen Specter in NOT Jewish, he belongs to some unusual protestant sect in Pennsylvania..[4] Norm Coleman is not Jewish. [5] William Cohen and his African American wife are Episcopalians............time for more research....

Didn't OUR ancestors come to this country for reli...

2007-09-23T00:23:00.000-05:00

Didn't OUR ancestors come to this country for religious FREED0M, I didn't think so either....

Good point, Wilson. Would you kindly point out fo...

2007-09-23T00:13:00.000-05:00

Good point, Wilson. Would you kindly point out for me the diversity in the Indiana Congressional Delegaton? How many of them are Jewish?

The Indiana delegation in the U.S. House is composed of a majority of Democrats. How many of those are Jewish?

I'll wait, Mr. Glass Houses.

For the record, I could actually care less how many members of Congress are Jewish. For my money, I'd rather have people in Congress who (a) are going to do their jbos; (b) who are going to SHOW UP to work to do their jobs; and (c) do the best they can, without regard to race, gender, religion, etc.

So, while you might make a big deal out of it, I could care less if my member of Congress is purple, green, Christian, Muslim, Jewish, etc. What was it Dr. King said? Something about judging people "by the content of their character, not the color of their skin?" Perhaps you should learn to practice more of that, friend.

AR

AR

It doesn't matter who's paying for it. If I were ...

2007-09-22T23:39:00.000-05:00

It doesn't matter who's paying for it. If I were to pay for a copy of the Ten Commandments for the statehouse lawn the ACLU would still jump all over it. And yet the ACLU hasn't jumped all over this. Who's running that zoo these days? Daggum.

Erin, You are correct, I don't know you and you d...

2007-09-22T23:20:00.000-05:00

Erin,
You are correct, I don't know you and you don't know me. I dont believe I slandered you or specifically stated that you are a part of moveon.org.If I did please point to the post that proves it. I have seen a lot of factless drivel on here and people going way off point to what this post is really about. That is exactly what the nutterballs from moveon.org like to do. I like Gary, don't believe public owned places should cater to any religion by providing facilities be they paid by private or public funds. If you were offended by what I posted then so be it. Political Correctness has done nothing but cause controversy and this case is no exception.

To Anon3:07/6:14,To ask the question is to answer ...

2007-09-22T22:56:00.000-05:00

To Anon3:07/6:14,

To ask the question is to answer it.

Also: I'll bet you a million-billion dollars (or, better yet, Shrute Bucks!) that I am not now and never have been a member of Moveon.org.

In the U. S. House of Representatives, there is ju...

2007-09-22T22:25:00.000-05:00

In the U. S. House of Representatives, there is just one Jewish Republican Congressman, Eric Cantor of Virginia. J.C. Watts was the sole Black Republican Congressman. Not exactly a diverse selection there from the GOP...

Erin,Good point. I might also add that when J.C. W...

2007-09-22T20:45:00.000-05:00

Erin,

Good point. I might also add that when J.C. Watts was a member of the U.S. House (a Republican African-American, I might add), the Congressional Black Caucus would not let him join the caucus. Funny, that - it's the Congressional Black Caucus, not the Congressional Black Democrat Caucus. Either way, they wouldn't let him.

Democrats do not have a monopoly on diversity, and to suggest they do, which is Wilson's less than subtle subtext, is misleading at best.

I wouldn't argue that the Repbulicans can't do better - of course they can, and I wish they would. However, Democrats can do much better, as well. After all, Joe Lieberman was their darling in 2000, but was cast aside in 2006 when they didn't need their token Jew any more (and that's a discredit to Senator Lieberman, for whom I have the utmost respect.) But there are *many* Jewish republicans, some of whom weren't elected but appointed (perhaps Wilson might have heard of Henry Kissinger, a not-insignificant person in the foreign policy realm of the United States.)

Why do I try? The facts won't convince Wilson or shut him up. I give him props for trying to advance his party's cause, there's no question about that. But he's just wrong on this, and is offensive to this poster (I won't claim he's offensive to all Jews - to do so would be as offensive as his initial post.)

AR

AR- very true. Rs certainly voted and helped elec...

2007-09-22T20:31:00.000-05:00

AR- very true. Rs certainly voted and helped elect Lieberman after he lost the D primary. And they elected him when he wasn't even running as an R. The current Marion County Circuit Court judge is jewish and a Republican (and elected). David O's presence in the IN House notwithstanding, 1 out of 50+ members is not exactly a ringing endorsment of diversity for the Ds either.

Wilson wrote:"It's also interesting to note that t...

2007-09-22T20:12:00.000-05:00

Wilson wrote:
"It's also interesting to note that the GOP has only 1 Jewish Congressman (which is one more than Black Republicans in Congress). Why won't Republicans elect Jews?"

As a Jew and a Republican, I cannot possibly express to you how offensive I find this post. Who are you to ask such a question? You certainly do NOT speak for the Jewish population, Wilson. Neither do I, for that matter.

I guess Stephen Goldsmith wasn't Jewish. Or former U.S. Senators Jacob Javitz, Barry Goldwater, or former Senator and Secretary of Defense William Cohen. Or U.S. Senator Arlen Specter. Or U.S. Senator Norm Coleman. Need I go on?

Frankly, Wilson, please stick to what you know. I try not to be personal on this thing, and most of my disgareements with you have been on policy related things, but this is just too much. You do not speak for Jews, so please don't try. As if you're some great defender of Jews and Judaism.

AR

anon 7:13, the facts as you state them make matter...

2007-09-22T20:11:00.000-05:00

anon 7:13, the facts as you state them make matters all the worse. When the airport first commented on it, they claimed the footbaths were for everyone's use, which clearly they were not intended. They are being put in bathrooms which will be convenient for Muslim taxi cab drivers and for the express purpose of their use. I don't care whether the foot baths are being paid for with private funds or not. The Ten Commandments which have been the center of controversy and ACLU suits all over the country were paid for with private funds and placed on public property as well. My entire point is that if we have to make these special arrangements for this small group of Muslims engaged in this particular occupation in this particular public place, where does it end? Why not accommodate Muslims everywhere in every public restroom? And what about the customs and traditions of other religions? There's no place to draw the line once you head down that road.

3:07/6:14 anon,First off, I, Erin, am not a member...

2007-09-22T19:36:00.000-05:00

3:07/6:14 anon,

First off, I, Erin, am not a member of moveon.org or supportive of them. Second, AI made several observations based on the Airport story. Those comments were not confined to merely a seperation of church v. state question. Gary put out his thoughts and people have responded (to all of them- that is how conversations develop). My statement regarding the number of american muslim truths is neither factless (fact= a statement that contains information that can be objectively proven, anon. For ex, "there are 15000 muslim soldiers in the US army"!!) nor off topic, but in direct response to an issue Gary himself put into the conversation. And Gary's comment was in direct response to what Rev. Hillenburg had stated in the Star article. Gary is an adult and can handle contentious, even heated responses to topics that HE brings up. Attempting to slander people with baseless allegations (which are NOT facts, anon!) by accusing them of being in certain organizations or having specific motivations is what is factless drivel. You don't know me in the least and you are wrong about me being in moveon.org- so there you are. Pretty idiotic statement you made about some one you are completely admittedly ignorant about.

People need to read carefully. The airport was [1...

2007-09-22T19:13:00.001-05:00

People need to read carefully. The airport was [1] not planning on spending taxpayer money for this 1 foot bath as the private funds have been made available, [2] it will be in the service restroom for the taxi drivers. The traveling public will not even see the footbath....why are of the hate spewing and venom and bigotry........it embarrasses me.

Any by the way, Wilson. I'm getting a little tired...

2007-09-22T19:13:00.000-05:00

Any by the way, Wilson. I'm getting a little tired of having to delete your anonymous comments. Whenever you read one of those particularly anti-black, anti-gay or anti-Jew comments, there's a good chance it was posted by Wilson. Yes, Wilson will anonymously post hate-filled bigoted comments and then point and say, see, look what that Advance Indiana blog has become. You're aren't going to get by with it here, Wilson. You will be called out for the hypocrite you are.

Wilson, nobody does more to foment hate than you. ...

2007-09-22T19:07:00.000-05:00

Wilson, nobody does more to foment hate than you. You are completely devoid of any moral compass, and I will be damned if you stand in judgment of me. Please, Wilson, just go away. Go find your own blog and ply your hate and hypocrisy there. People are absolutely sick and tired of you.