Comments on Advance Indiana™: Predictions for 2008

I'd have to vote for Orentlicher over Carson. What...

2008-01-02T13:31:00.000-05:00

I'd have to vote for Orentlicher over Carson. Whatever Julia wanted, Andre just doesn't have enough experience and needs a few years on the CCC under his belt before he runs for Dist. 7. Running now is overreaching, and despite Julia's influence, I can't see them pulling it off.

"I think 6 and 7 r a conflict. If the gen assemb d...

2008-01-02T08:04:00.000-05:00

"I think 6 and 7 r a conflict.
If the gen assemb doesnt do something this short session for property tax concrete/binding/immediate relief for 2008, and reconciliation tax 2007, I think the gov is gone, and the voters clean house, as did in marion cty."

Anon. 2:48, I agree with you. As I said in my prediction, I believe they will come up with a comprehensive plan which will generate real property tax reductions people will see immediately. If it falls short, all bets are off. I'm thinking the politicians are smart enough to figure that out by this point, but they may prove to be as oblivious to it as Peterson was.

Advance, I think 6 and 7 r a conflict. If the gen ...

2008-01-02T02:48:00.000-05:00

Advance,
I think 6 and 7 r a conflict.
If the gen assemb doesnt do something this short session for property tax concrete/binding/immediate relief for 2008, and reconciliation tax 2007, I think the gov is gone, and the voters clean house, as did in marion cty.
The carl brizzi tale will be interesting to follow...he has, in the last few months followed thru, made statements, and offended some voters. I think dickerson should go for it, or is he saving himself, if baye leave.
just an opinion.

Anon 5:06, It seems that you're wrong. Steve Gold...

2008-01-01T20:42:00.000-05:00

Anon 5:06, It seems that you're wrong.

Steve Goldsmith was the Prosecutor in 1988 when he ran for Lt. Governor with John Mutz. Steve continued as the Prosecutor until 1990.

It appears that prosecutors can run for other offices while serving.

Source: Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Goldsmith

If Carl Brizzi has to resign from his job as Prose...

2008-01-01T18:35:00.000-05:00

If Carl Brizzi has to resign from his job as Prosecutor, it's much more likely he'll not go off on a quixotic run for Congress in a race he's unlikely to win. I still doubt if Brizzi would risk all on the 7th District...it's too much of a gamble! If he loses, he's just another bartender at Harry & Izzy's, not the Marion County Prosecutor...

I think Goldsmith actually sat a year out as prose...

2008-01-01T17:19:00.000-05:00

I think Goldsmith actually sat a year out as prosecutor and worked for Dann Pecar while he was running for mayor in 1991.

not true, for example, goldsmith was prosecutor wh...

2008-01-01T17:06:00.000-05:00

not true, for example, goldsmith was prosecutor while he ran for mayor.

The prosecutor is bound by the same canon of ethic...

2008-01-01T15:00:00.000-05:00

The prosecutor is bound by the same canon of ethics as judges...the second that he announces for a non judicial office then he must resign as prosecutor ANON 7:09 please double check your research, You are incorrect.

What I would like to know is exactly why local pla...

2008-01-01T14:08:00.000-05:00

What I would like to know is exactly why local playboy Tim Durham gave $165,000 to Brizzi.
What could Brizzi possibly do for Durham for $165,0000?
BTW, Durham only gave Mitch $50,000so go figure.

"If Brizzi does make a run for the 7th, he will ru...

2008-01-01T12:54:00.000-05:00

"If Brizzi does make a run for the 7th, he will run into, deservedly, a back lash from many people who want to know why he did nothing about all the corruption in City-County government these past 4 years. However, if he does run, what with his time being taken up with the campaign and his radio show, the MCPO might actually get some things done."

Yeah, right. You obviously didn't work there during his last campaign. You couldn't take a shit without vetting it through Dave Wyser and Lisa Borges. They would then sift through the turds to see if there was anything in your stool that could possibly impact the campaign.

Seriously, look at all the high-profile cases that got resolved in December and January after the election. A lot of those got resolved in favor of the defense. The deputies were told to continue all of these cases until after the election to assure no adverse publicity would affect the campaign.

So glad to be gone!

Anonymous wrote:"I sincerely hope Dr. McGoff does ...

2008-01-01T10:22:00.000-05:00

Anonymous wrote:
"I sincerely hope Dr. McGoff does win, but I don't see how he can."

Because a number of republicans like me have been waiting for a candidate to come along to bounce Burton out of Congress.

Counting the days until the May primary...

Anon. 1246 - Haith's conflict is not with represen...

2008-01-01T10:13:00.000-05:00

Anon. 1246 - Haith's conflict is not with representing the CCC and the caucus, but rather in representing the CCC and INDIVIDUAL members of the CCC, both in their varied criminal cases and before the Council itself.

If Orentlicher makes a play for the 7th's seat, and has to run against Little Carson, watch the Carson camp come out swinging and throwing as much trash as possible. They showed many people where they stand with the inclusion of Farrakhan at Grandma's funeral.

Little "C" is a lightweight right now, and needs time to grow. Let him do his time locally, and in a few years he might have the ability to actually lead and be a decent representative in Washington. As he is now (young, no real political experience, possibly elevated to Congress by familial loyalty) he will get eaten alive in D.C.

If Brizzi does make a run for the 7th, he will run into, deservedly, a back lash from many people who want to know why he did nothing about all the corruption in City-County government these past 4 years. However, if he does run, what with his time being taken up with the campaign and his radio show, the MCPO might actually get some things done.

Thanks for catching that anon. 10:04. I've made th...

2008-01-01T10:08:00.000-05:00

Thanks for catching that anon. 10:04. I've made the correction. I believe Brizzi will win the GOP nomination and the special election but lose the November election.

interesting, AI.one minor point, however. your #'...

2008-01-01T10:04:00.000-05:00

interesting, AI.

one minor point, however. your #'s 3-4 are not consistent. there is no way that carson could win the caucus on jan 12 and then lose to david o in the special election. the caucus selects the d candidate for the special, notwithstanding the 08 primary.

if the primary and special are on the same day, theoretically carson could win the special, become congressman for the rest of 08, and lose in the primary to another candidate for the 09/10 full congressional term.

the caucus to select a candidate for the special is different from the slating convention run by the local party.

just trying to help...

Tebaum, Aaron Haith is out as the council attorney...

2008-01-01T09:43:00.000-05:00

Tebaum,

Aaron Haith is out as the council attorney. The dems on the council did vote in caucus to keep him on as the minority attorney. He won't have any authority except to say hi in their caucus. He opinion means nothing in the council chambers now.

Nothing in the Canon of Judicial Ethics, or the AB...

2008-01-01T07:09:00.000-05:00

Nothing in the Canon of Judicial Ethics, or the ABA Standards of Conduct, compel Brizzi to resign as prosecutor if he runs for another office.

If he spends a lot of time campaigning for Congress, and shows up less at the office, I'm not sure his staff would notice.

I seriously doubt if Brizzi would risk running, kn...

2008-01-01T05:52:00.000-05:00

I seriously doubt if
Brizzi would risk running, knowing it'd likely lead to defeat. Losing looks lousy on a resumé for an overly-ambitious "suit" like Carl Brizzi...
Look what you said about Peterson and Ballard. Your boy Bart was a "shoe-in". Where is he now? Oh, yeah. UNEMPLOYED!!!!!

You forget that to run for congress that Brizzi wo...

2008-01-01T03:17:00.000-05:00

You forget that to run for congress that Brizzi would have to resign as prosecutor......that would be one good way to get rid of a horrible spineless prosecutor who has no chance of winning an election......

Your analysis is impeccable. People pay lots of mo...

2008-01-01T02:22:00.000-05:00

Your analysis is impeccable. People pay lots of money for this kind of advice.

So if Aaron Haith is disciplined for representing ...

2008-01-01T00:46:00.000-05:00

So if Aaron Haith is disciplined for representing both a caucus and the council as a whole, then what about Bob Elrod (father of Jon Elrod) who did it for years for the Republicans and is about to once again represent the Republican caucus and the council as a whole?

AI,Did you make any political predictions for 2007...

2007-12-31T23:56:00.000-05:00

AI,

Did you make any political predictions for 2007, 2006, etc? If so, what were those predictions and what kind of success rate do you have?

Open question: who is the most gay friendly candid...

2007-12-31T23:41:00.000-05:00

Open question: who is the most gay friendly candidate on either side of the 7th District race?

Andre in a walk..mark my words..not even close.

2007-12-31T23:39:00.000-05:00

Andre in a walk..mark my words..not even close.

As usual, thought provoking stuff. I find your 7t...

2007-12-31T23:01:00.000-05:00

As usual, thought provoking stuff. I find your 7th district musings fascinating, especially on the Democratic side. Your predictions are plausible but as you say, who knows? I think Brizzi will not make the race. You are right--Mitch will win by about 55%. The Peterson defeat was a big and necessary wake up call for both parties. I think you are being a little hard on Ballard. This town has a lot of talent and it will find it's way to Ballard.

Predictions as to Greg Ballard are not necessary! ...

2007-12-31T22:28:00.000-05:00

Predictions as to Greg Ballard are not necessary! He has already written his prescription for failure. Thought that he was much smarter than he actually is!
So much for the Marines saving Indianapolis!