tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post999219086724871417..comments2020-04-11T03:30:02.282-05:00Gary R. Welshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-55110024166670326212007-12-24T20:17:00.000-05:002007-12-24T20:17:00.000-05:00Joseph and Mary were not married either.......they would have been declared second class citizens if the Mitch Daniels's anti marriage amendment is passed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-81914386101987439032007-12-24T19:35:00.000-05:002007-12-24T19:35:00.000-05:00Fornication!!!Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/14214029150233485312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-72339525591030354382007-12-24T18:47:00.000-05:002007-12-24T18:47:00.000-05:00<I>"ADAM and EVE" NOT "ADAM AND STEVE"</I><BR/><BR/>Adam and Eve were married?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-28953851680014273982007-12-24T11:57:00.000-05:002007-12-24T11:57:00.000-05:00While adding a constitutional amendment, let's eliminate the unnecessary layers of government and unneeded elected officials. Appoint Sheriffs, and coroners based upon qualifications and skill. Abolish townships.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-15141630233038197592007-12-24T09:48:00.000-05:002007-12-24T09:48:00.000-05:005:53pm, if you are against amending the constitution, you have my apologies. Are you?<BR/><BR/>You said: "In future debate, meetings, hearings, petition drives, fund raisers for your cause; how quick will I be to put myself out there on your behalf?" <BR/><BR/>Have you been to fundraisers, signed petitions and attended hearings on your friends behalf? If so, again I will extend my apologies.<BR/><BR/>You said: "Your either with me or against me" may end badly. There are those who believe in equality for this group of citizens without supporting the wording. Do you really want to allienate them? I will continue to support my friends, but there are those out there who will eventually tire of your name calling and turn their back on you."<BR/><BR/>So, are you for or against the marriage amendment?<BR/><BR/>Please clarify before I begin these apologies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-10179380802149250512007-12-24T09:13:00.000-05:002007-12-24T09:13:00.000-05:00Where does God talk about Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve? I think that is a slogan made up by bigoted haters to spew since they do not have any facts on their side.......<BR/><BR/> DITCH MITCH!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-24803328015789046172007-12-24T08:36:00.000-05:002007-12-24T08:36:00.000-05:00Why not also use "GOD HATES FAGS"? If you're going to be a bigot, be a total bigot!Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/14214029150233485312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-55024622025867679472007-12-24T02:30:00.000-05:002007-12-24T02:30:00.000-05:00"ADAM and EVE" <B>NOT</B> "ADAM AND STEVE"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-33321393354589594852007-12-24T00:37:00.000-05:002007-12-24T00:37:00.000-05:00Many branches of the Episcopal church wishes to conduct gay marriage ceremonies........there are many others....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-30333210335457963472007-12-23T22:32:00.000-05:002007-12-23T22:32:00.000-05:00The polls say Daniels is in trouble. He knows he can't win if he doesn't hold the right wing. It's simple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-47316751117682411132007-12-23T21:39:00.000-05:002007-12-23T21:39:00.000-05:00Marriage is precisely government intervention into private lives. The Federal government provides over 1000 "benefits" to married couples and thus denies those benefits to LGBT persons.<BR/><BR/>Couples always may "shack up" without benefit of clergy or state approval. Churches may do religious ceremonies or sacraments concerning marriage but without that state-issued marriage license, it's a private religious function.<BR/><BR/>The issuance by the state of the marriage license is central to officially registering the couple in the eyes of society and the law. All else is rock&roll and holy mumbojumbo.Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/14214029150233485312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-5616898568051987202007-12-23T21:30:00.000-05:002007-12-23T21:30:00.000-05:00Are we still having this discussion? Leave the gays alone. No more govermnent intervention in our personal lives!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-76309783517644640832007-12-23T21:25:00.000-05:002007-12-23T21:25:00.000-05:00<I>I am only against Gay marriage. By another name, i have no quarrels with gay couples having the same rights.</I><BR/><BR/>Why? You DO realize that legalizing gay marriage would not and could not force any church to perform or recognize something that is against its doctrine, right? There ARE churches that want to perform marriages for same-sex couples.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-61585695247208665312007-12-23T21:07:00.000-05:002007-12-23T21:07:00.000-05:005:53 said, "By another name, i have no quarrels with gay couples having the same rights."<BR/><BR/>In case you missed the past 50 years, the rest of us discovered that separate is not equal. I bet you support separate water fountains too, don't you? <BR/><BR/>You argue so vehemently against being labled a bigot, yet there you go spewing statements that validate that very label. Real classy...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-27768496577754451942007-12-23T18:43:00.000-05:002007-12-23T18:43:00.000-05:00Wilson,<BR/><BR/>Many meetings of the Religious Society of Friends (the Quakers) also desire to join anyone who so desires into the bounds of marriage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-67050597507928136472007-12-23T18:18:00.000-05:002007-12-23T18:18:00.000-05:00The recently retired Center Township Small Claims Court Judge Paula Lopossa stated she'd be glad to marry same-sex couples should the law allow it.Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/14214029150233485312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-21913269843230991722007-12-23T17:57:00.000-05:002007-12-23T17:57:00.000-05:00In Indianapolis, the Jesus Metropolitan Community Church is most desirous of marrying same-sex couples. All Unitarian churches have expressed a desire to do so. Others can name many, many more.Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/14214029150233485312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-77181739503290322962007-12-23T17:53:00.000-05:002007-12-23T17:53:00.000-05:00Another interesting point for Lori. I have several gay friends, and i am a supporter of gay rights, I am only against Gay marriage. By another name, i have no quarrels with gay couples having the same rights. Now however, you have called my a homo-bigoted religious extremists. My friends know me and can live with my views, by all or nothing activists want my head on a platter. In future debate, meetings, hearings, petition drives, fund raisers for your cause; how quick will I be to put myself out there on your behalf? Should I stand up for a group who calls me names and mocks what I believe in? Should I give time and money to those who shout me down for having beliefs of my own? Should I even care about your cause after you have chosen to banish me? I probably shouldn't, but I still will because they are my friends. How many others who believe as I do will turn their backs on you because of your name calling? The stance of "Your either with me or against me" may end badly. There are those who believe in equality for this group of citizens without supporting the wording. Do you really want to allienate them? I will continue to support my friends, but there are those out there who will eventually tire of your name calling and turn their back on you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-19829131004053271182007-12-23T17:52:00.000-05:002007-12-23T17:52:00.000-05:00Wilson Allen 4:56: <BR/><BR/>Put up or shut up! There are NO churches that "are quite willing to marry couples of the same sex." The bible has a term for it, The Abominable Sin.<BR/><BR/>Disinformation is your only hope, Wilson.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-47909894565013967102007-12-23T17:23:00.000-05:002007-12-23T17:23:00.000-05:00Interestingly, the State of Indiana does not require any couple to be married in a church with a religious ceremony. Bart Peterson has the authority to conduct a perfectly legal marriage ceremony. The Center Township Small Claims Court Judge performs marriages constantly in the basement of the City-County Building. The important document is the Marriage License issued by the County Clerk, Beth White. It becomes valid and operative only when signed by a person legally authorized to conduct marriages. There are a number of important legal advantages accruing to a couple upon marriage. None of these are conferred by The God Almighty but by the secular authorities and entities. Without a government-issued marriage license, the most elaborate marriage sacrament performed even by the Holy Father, the Pope himself, is null and void.<BR/><BR/>Let religious entities conduct marriage ceremonies for whom they wish (assuming the couple has a valid state-isued marriage license) but let's keep those religious entities from dictating to whom the State may issue marriage licenses!Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/14214029150233485312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-6875246554811755252007-12-23T17:02:00.000-05:002007-12-23T17:02:00.000-05:00Lori,<BR/>Did I say my friends should be second class citizens? Did I say i wanted to deprive them of the right to protect their families? Did I say i did not want them to have protections in place? As a matter of fact, did i even say that I supported a constitution ammendment? No. I said only that I was an opponent of "gay marriaqge". You, just like everyone else on your side of the fence, take the position that since I don't believe as you do, I am an evil nut. You put words in my mouth and then attack me for them. My friends understand my beliefs, listen to my reasons, and then made a decision that we are different in our views. You my dear, attack first, make assumptions, and resort to name calling. All of the things you call for could be accomplished without "marriage", yet you hold an all or nothing bent that will eventually be your downfall.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-73578284254180780182007-12-23T16:56:00.000-05:002007-12-23T16:56:00.000-05:00Anon 4:51 get over it and admit that Wilson is correct. Some churches are quite willing to marry couples of the same sex. <BR/>Some wont even marry hetero couple of other religions or a mixed couple when one couple is a member of that church and one isn't. What straight people need to remember is that many straight couples have lived as husband and wife for years and raised a family but this amendment wont take away some of those rights also. I dont think that we want to open that door.........some churches still wont marry mixed race couples.....you and the government need to stay out of the bedrooms of private citizens...and treat everyone with equal rights.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-2711573124786372162007-12-23T16:51:00.000-05:002007-12-23T16:51:00.000-05:00Wilson: Get a life! -And a clue! The State does not dictate who churches marry. <BR/><BR/>The State recognizes the union of a man & woman. <BR/><BR/>We need a constitutional amendment to prevent a leftist judge from destroying that which The Almighty has joined. <BR/><BR/>Please stop your disinformation campaign. There are no churches that, as Wilson Allen says "are desirous to marry two people of the same sex." <BR/><BR/>What is "The Abominable Sin," Wilson?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-13615028899566427962007-12-23T16:42:00.000-05:002007-12-23T16:42:00.000-05:00anon. 2:45, This amendment isn't just a gay marriage ban. It deprives anyone, straight or gay, from obtaining any legal protection of their relationship if they are not married. It is not until relative recent history that government has got in the business of regulating what is and isn't a marriage. Religions should be free to declare what a marriage is in the practice of their respective faiths, but they should not be allowed to dictate to the rest of us what a marriage is.Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-43511360480049152652007-12-23T16:40:00.000-05:002007-12-23T16:40:00.000-05:00Catholic churches are not required to marry Protestants. If you aren't a Mormon, forget about ever getting married in a Mormon Temple! Society freely allows churches to discriminate in whom they will marry. Why is the State of Indiana so intent on dictating who churches may not marry? Many religious entities are desirous to marry two people of the same sex but Mitch and his minions desire to thwart such religious practices. <BR/><BR/>Separate the church from the clutches of the state and also separate the state from the clutches of some churches!Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/14214029150233485312noreply@blogger.com